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Re: George Williams : Tue May 25, 2021 2:01 pm  

I enjoy the Aussie coverage to a degree as it's a world away from the easy ride players, coaches and administrators get over here. In the UK RL journalists live in fear of upsetting anyone so nobody really asks difficult questions. That leads to really boring coverage. So much so that I just gave up on it and I only rarely watch any televised RL over here.

That said when NRL 360 degenerates into four blokes yelling at each other it's poop. On the other side NRL on Channel 9 has opinionated ex-players coming out with bollox so it's not just journalists.

The coverage is like the Premier League gets over here and so players going there need to understand that's one of the downsides of going there, which also has to be measured against the much bigger salary, nicer weather, better standard of competition etc. If you really make it you can get a gig on one of those shows like James Graham but you need to be one of the best players in the comp as well as being able to string a sentence together.

Re: George Williams : Tue May 25, 2021 2:36 pm  

Lazy J wrote:

But he would only be signing for half a season, so you would expect that Wigan, Leeds and the wolfs have room for him this season,

I understood that, under these circumstances, the player's salary is taken pro rata meaning that whatever he is paid for half a season counts as double that against the cap.

Re: George Williams : Tue May 25, 2021 2:52 pm  

St Helens Wolf wrote:

I understood that, under these circumstances, the player's salary is taken pro rata meaning that whatever he is paid for half a season counts as double that against the cap.

tried to explain this on the forum numerous times
People think that if for example the players wages annually added up to 1.5million we could bring someone in half way through the season and pay them 700k (The rest of the cap) for half a season, you can't

the players wages are spent/assessed monthly

So the cap is 2.2m (I think) divided by 12months - i.e. 183,000 a month approx.

If you are running at £170k a month for the first 6 months of the year the 13k spend per month your under the cap x 6 previous months cannot be used at some point down the line

You can only spend up to £183,000 per month each month

So if were 13k per month under the cap then Wigan can only pay a 6 month contract of 13k x 6 months for the rest of the year

Hope that makes sense

Disclaimer - All numbers above are hypothetical

Re: George Williams : Tue May 25, 2021 3:01 pm  

Explained here. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... l-20671729

Explained here. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... l-20671729

Re: George Williams : Tue May 25, 2021 3:04 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

tried to explain this on the forum numerous times
People think that if for example the players wages annually added up to 1.5million we could bring someone in half way through the season and pay them 700k (The rest of the cap) for half a season, you can't

the players wages are spent/assessed monthly

So the cap is 2.2m (I think) divided by 12months - i.e. 183,000 a month approx.

If you are running at £170k a month for the first 6 months of the year the 13k spend per month your under the cap x 6 previous months cannot be used at some point down the line

You can only spend up to £183,000 per month each month

So if were 13k per month under the cap then Wigan can only pay a 6 month contract of 13k x 6 months for the rest of the year

Hope that makes sense

Disclaimer - All numbers above are hypothetical

Interesting, I didn’t realise it was a monthly cap on expenditure, thanks for a clear explanation

Re: George Williams : Tue May 25, 2021 4:16 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

tried to explain this on the forum numerous times
People think that if for example the players wages annually added up to 1.5million we could bring someone in half way through the season and pay them 700k (The rest of the cap) for half a season, you can't

the players wages are spent/assessed monthly

Good luck with that. We have a few who struggle with the concept over on the Wire pages

Also quite a few who think that you can structure the wages so that you pay more one year and less another. The simple fact is that the RL have the final say in the figure that is used against the cap, so no chance for creative accounting.

For GW to come to the Wire we'd have to let another marquee player go early. That could happen as Austin would likely be on his way at the end of the season anyway and Widopp has expressed a wish to return to Australia to be near to his kids.

Re: George Williams : Tue May 25, 2021 4:28 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote: Explained here. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... l-20671729 MEN says we have a marquee spot available only 75 k on salary cap and pay him what he wants over that not counting on cap.

Rogues Gallery wrote: Explained here. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... l-20671729 MEN says we have a marquee spot available only 75 k on salary cap and pay him what he wants over that not counting on cap.

Re: George Williams : Tue May 25, 2021 4:36 pm  

I'm guessing Williams might not be able to command a marquee salary this season if no team has the cap space for it. It may be a case of him taking a lower salary with us this year then a big salary next year when we can free up cap space.

Re: George Williams : Tue May 25, 2021 5:12 pm  

I totally get the "We need a good prop as top priority" thing.

But George going to Leeds or Wire? that would be a disaster, and surely must not be allowed to happen.

Re: George Williams : Tue May 25, 2021 5:18 pm  

Talking about Journalism...

The WEP have just run a story, that quotes Brian Carney, saying that Leigh are in for him.

Give me 360 any day of the week