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Re: ZAK : Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:24 pm  
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The flip side is, that as one of the two most talented players in the league (next season) in the most influential position, he could be instrumental in any chance of silverware we have.

I didn't have much faith in him before, and I have less now. But, I'd rather him be here than at a rival.


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Re: ZAK : Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:27 pm  
Suzy Banyon wrote:
The flip side is, that as one of the two most talented players in the league (next season) in the most influential position, he could be instrumental in any chance of silverware we have.

I didn't have much faith in him before, and I have less now. But, I'd rather him be here than at a rival.


Out of interest, who do you think is the other most talent player in the league?
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Re: ZAK : Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:36 pm  
Suzy Banyon wrote:
The flip side is, that as one of the two most talented players in the league (next season) in the most influential position, he could be instrumental in any chance of silverware we have.

I didn't have much faith in him before, and I have less now. But, I'd rather him be here than at a rival.


I could see that if he could keep himself out of bother but it appears he can't. I was gutted when Cas got him and his performances for them, especially against us, were phenomenal but he then went and handed us the title in the week of the GF. Then I wasn't so bothered he was gone. I think Cas fans will be feeling the same way now. We all thought we could tame him but whilst he hangs around with his "homies" I can't see him changing.
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Re: ZAK : Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:14 pm  
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I say keep him. His counselling rehabilitation would have only just began. Reprimand him, and move on with a final warning. Let him move to Wigan and begin properly.


Yeh, that’ll do it. Genius!
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Re: ZAK : Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:19 pm  
Suzy Banyon wrote:
The flip side is, that as one of the two most talented players in the league (next season) in the most influential position, he could be instrumental in any chance of silverware we have.

I didn't have much faith in him before, and I have less now. But, I'd rather him be here than at a rival.



That’s the problem. If he wasn’t so bloody good it would be a no brained to get rid. I suppose Wigan have got to make the decision between the probability of him doing something again (which is high) and his value as a top player.

The key seems to be getting him away from his ‘mates’. His agent has publicly said he needs to say to Wigan he will go tee total as all his indiscretions seem to start with ‘I had a drink’.
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Re: ZAK : Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:23 pm  
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That’s the problem. If he wasn’t so bloody good it would be a no brained to get rid. I suppose Wigan have got to make the decision between the probability of him doing something again (which is high) and his value as a top player.

The key seems to be getting him away from his ‘mates’. His agent has publicly said he needs to say to Wigan he will go tee total as all his indiscretions seem to start with ‘I had a drink’.



and that last bit is about as likely to happen as Lord Lucan and Elvis playing for Wigan next season. He might at a pinch say it but doing it....well ....just like he has apologised and said he will be a good boy after every incident and then....

If he can't behave enough to even get through a month training for a club that have given him a lifeline despite his long history and recent events then the time to get rid is now whilst there is time to make good - I do not care a jot how good a player he is (or can be) let him be someone else's problem.
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Re: ZAK : Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:39 pm  
I was going to run a poll to see when he would let us down. I didn't anticipate it would be before he'd even put on the shirt.

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Re: ZAK : Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:45 pm  
The irony of Tony Adams going in on Monday to talk about his issues, then this on Tuesday!
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Re: ZAK : Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:12 pm  
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The irony of Tony Adams going in on Monday to talk about his issues, then this on Tuesday!


It’s hilarious.
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Re: ZAK : Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:02 pm  
Just wonder if any one knows if he is still training as normal? Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
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