: Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:24 pm  

tugglesf78 wrote:

Yeah the way they were talking on the Footy show, the bulls had already snaped Wing up. Fatty even quoted his possible salary.

TBH he is a player i would have liked to have seen in the SL, though i must admit my opinion is largley based on his performance in SOO game one were he was outstanding in a beaten side and really lifted the NSW team.

Somone will snap him up

Wing is a very good player. Never a 'superstar'. Not sure why Super League clubs keep going for very good players rather than developing their own talent.

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:05 pm  

Boris wrote:

Wing is a very good player. Never a 'superstar'. Not sure why Super League clubs keep going for very good players rather than developing their own talent.

Quick fixes, fans are impatient and as much as they like seeing home grown talent play, most would see their team win matches now.

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:52 pm  

p1e e8ter wrote:

Quick fixes, fans are impatient and as much as they like seeing home grown talent play, most would see their team win matches now.

Even if it doesn't always work.

There've been few, if any, bigger name signings than Barratt was. And none at all who lived up to their expectations as well - but we still didn't win any trophies with him. We got close, admittedly, but we didn't win the trophies.

Now we seem to be playing a longer game, basing our plans on home-grown talent. I can't help thinking that this is the better and more cost-effective way to go, though I'll admit to wishing that we would sign a couple of seasoned overseasers just to help us through.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:11 am  

FWIW we're well over 1000 posts now. Is it time for a new thread?

[DaveO]

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:38 am  

jonh wrote:

I think Dave was suggesting regards the cap that there will only be 2 non IFL signings in the squad next year in Feka and Fielden.

Although Pat and Tommy were playing for the club pre IFL, they essentially became his signings regards cap management and planning when they signed new deals under his management.

Yes, thanks Jonh , that is what I meant. Obviously have no idea how much these two earn but in 2010 they are the only two "legacy" players left.

Everyone else is on an IL contract.

Dave

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:56 am  

What's the deal with Ellery, some people want him to coach the team, and why not probably the greatest player the country's ever produced and has a pretty good coaching record. Whats the argument for those not wanting him back? Please enlighten me.

Maybe its just me but i'm not conviced with his coaching record. Ok, he led Saints to the SL title in 1999 but hasn't coached at the top level since and the game has changed a lot in the last ten years.

He only spent 1 season or so at Saints and left in 2000. The only other coaching he has done was to spend two months or so at Cas in 2004 before leaving, and one season at Doncaster in NL2. You could argue that he led them to a playoff win last season, but it was NL2. In total that's only 2 full seasons coaching in the last ten years.

Don't get me wrong, the man is a legend and one of the best ever to play the game, but i don't agree that he's the right coach when in my eyes, he has very little coaching experience.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:07 am  

Coached for 2 years and won 2 grand finals, also to Donny to northern plant pot final.

The guy is a legend and ooooozzzes discipline.

Some of that discipline at wigan may have saved GAZ HOCKS career.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:24 am  

Tricky Dicky wrote:

Some of that discipline at wigan may have saved GAZ HOCKS career.

Quite possibly the stupidest thing you have ever said.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:04 pm  

AJ wrote:

Quite possibly the stupidest thing you have ever said.

Agree 100%.

Gareth Hock was the architect of his own misfortunes. He only has himself to blame.

: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:17 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

Agree 100%.

Gareth Hock was the architect of his own misfortunes. He only has himself to blame.

Indeed, the implication that anyone else is responsible is completely incorrect and stupid.