Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:15 pm  

oh dear?
bit condescending there,
i dont, im sure many of the saints fans wouldnt want anyone or anything from wigan.

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:17 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

If Matt King goes to Wigan, i think he'd replace Pat on the wing who would be shifted to fullback and Sam would go back in the halves

Is there anything really in this, or is it all just hearsay about King?

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:26 pm  

Guerrier wrote:

Is there anything really in this, or is it all just hearsay about King?

Not seen anything deffo... Just talk i reckon.

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:28 pm  

truewiganer wrote:

oh dear?
bit condescending there,
i dont, im sure many of the saints fans wouldnt want anyone or anything from wigan.

Yes i was condescending... You make a statement about Saints, then give an exception. Just looked a little silly.

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:32 pm  

i grew up watching connolly for wigan, not really knowing about his dark dark past,
but i also grew up hating scully, wouldnt want him near a wigan team, just for the pure fact he is mr st helens,
the coupled with i really dont think he should be given the chance after being a buisness manager at saints and not really doing much if any proper coaching,
having wayne as the main man next year is a big enough gamble for me, y make it even harder by having a guy who has never been a assistant, or coach at the lower level for very long ,

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:35 pm  

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Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:08 pm  

truewiganer wrote:

i grew up watching connolly for wigan, not really knowing about his dark dark past,
but i also grew up hating scully, wouldnt want him near a wigan team, just for the pure fact he is mr st helens,
the coupled with i really dont think he should be given the chance after being a buisness manager at saints and not really doing much if any proper coaching,
having wayne as the main man next year is a big enough gamble for me, y make it even harder by having a guy who has never been a assistant, or coach at the lower level for very long ,

The problem is finding a quality assistant. We couldn't get an Aussie because of work permit problems. We won't be able to get an SL team coach to come and be an assistant, effectively dropping down. And there's no one at the club to promote to that position. I'm happy to just run with whatever IL decides and get on with it.

What I have been told is Scully has been approached by Wigan's prospective coach rather than Scully approaching Wigan or IL approaching Scully. This in itself is good as the coach is picking who he works with rather than being told who he'll be working with. Scully is/was a leader and a bloody good one at that. He's ranked up there with Farrell and no one would complain if he came back. I know he's now got coaching experience but from what I've heard he was taking training sessions whilst he was a player at Wigan anyway. Who's to say Scully wasn't doing that?

I'm actually quite excited to see what a relatively young (experience wise) coaching partnership could achieve

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:29 pm  

Pemps wrote:

The problem is finding a quality assistant. We couldn't get an Aussie because of work permit problems. We won't be able to get an SL team coach to come and be an assistant, effectively dropping down. And there's no one at the club to promote to that position. I'm happy to just run with whatever IL decides and get on with it.

What I have been told is Scully has been approached by Wigan's prospective coach rather than Scully approaching Wigan or IL approaching Scully. This in itself is good as the coach is picking who he works with rather than being told who he'll be working with. Scully is/was a leader and a bloody good one at that. He's ranked up there with Farrell and no one would complain if he came back. I know he's now got coaching experience but from what I've heard he was taking training sessions whilst he was a player at Wigan anyway. Who's to say Scully wasn't doing that?

I'm actually quite excited to see what a relatively young (experience wise) coaching partnership could achieve

Agree 100% with this and also the likely circumstances to which he is being appointed, only bit I find offensive is the bit in bold. Great player but no Faz...............

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Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:31 pm  

jonh wrote:

Agree 100% with this and also the likely circumstances to which he is being appointed, only bit I find offensive is the bit in bold. Great player but no Faz...............

What I meant was, he's St Helens' Farrell.

Re: Rumours and signings v7 : Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:38 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

Surely if Matt King comes to Wigan he will get the 3 shirt with Josh as his wingman. George and Pat to continue at 4 and 5.
That would allow Joel to return to the second row and be our right sided 2nd rower.

I'd be very happy with that. All we need is Matt King to sign and George Carmont to stay for another year! Although I would consider swapping King and Charnley around. Still with Sam, King, Charnley, Carmont and Richards that would be a top backline with the resources available to us.

Should Coley retire then our props would be Fielden, Lima, Prescott, Mossop plus Crosby Davies and Spencer. Maybe also O'Carroll.
The back row would consist of Joel, HH, Hock, Lockers, Faz, Tuson & Hughes.
That looks like a very good pack after allowing for Coley and Hoffman's departure.

I'd possibly like to recruit another prop, but we may have to spend our resources elsewhere. Halfback and hooker will depend on where Wane/Scully see Thomas Leuluai better off at. IMO it would be at hooker. Two scenarios:

First option

Brett Finch
Thomas Leuluai

Mike McIlorum

Joe Mellor

Second option

Brett Finch
Joe Mellor

Thomas Leuluai

Mike McIlorum

Unless of course we can recruit a halfback or a hooker.