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I know it's a thankless task and without them we have no game and all that but the refereeing and disciplinary this season has been at an all time low. We have a player once again sitting out a match for an incident that was a big, fat nothing and people appealing bans that were far more justifiable. It's nuts...and that's before we get to the fact that an incorrect red card probably cost us a trophy. How has it got to where it is? It's a shambles.
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2nd appeal lost and Saints have accepted result
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Good job the RFL bend over backwards to help Saints or heaven knows where we would be!!
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Good job the RFL bend over backwards to help Saints or heaven knows where we would be!!


Bottom two where you belong :ROCKS:
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apollosghost wrote:
2nd appeal lost and Saints have accepted result


Now, if that is not regarded as a frivolous appeal I don’t know how you define it.
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Now, if that is not regarded as a frivolous appeal I don’t know how you define it.

A frivolous appeal is something fans don’t seem to understand. Making an appeal and losing doesn’t constitute a frivolous appeal. The appeal system is there to be used. A frivolous appeal is when you launch an appeal process but you don’t contend with guilt or the grading, essentially wasting everybody’s time. I always use the Leeds ones as an example: they launched an appeal and basically said “we don’t deny he’s guilty, and the grading is right, but the ban is harsh based on other bans given out this season”. However, they can’t change the ban length unless you prove the player is either not guilty or has been charged with the wrong grade. If you’re not challenging either of those things then there’s literally nothing that can be done and you’ve just wasted everybody’s time by calling an appeal panel together - hence the added punishment

It’s mad how many people have no clue. The amount of comments on social media asking for a frivolous appeal EVERY time we appeal anything is boring af. Shouldn’t be surprised though really considering so many of the clubs themselves didn’t even understand it, hence why they kept getting whacked by it.
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The Reaper wrote:
A frivolous appeal is something fans don’t seem to understand. Making an appeal and losing doesn’t constitute a frivolous appeal. The appeal system is there to be used. A frivolous appeal is when you launch an appeal process but you don’t contend with guilt or the grading, essentially wasting everybody’s time. I always use the Leeds ones as an example: they launched an appeal and basically said “we don’t deny he’s guilty, and the grading is right, but the ban is harsh based on other bans given out this season”. However, they can’t change the ban length unless you prove the player is either not guilty or has been charged with the wrong grade. If you’re not challenging either of those things then there’s literally nothing that can be done and you’ve just wasted everybody’s time by calling an appeal panel together - hence the added punishment

It’s mad how many people have no clue. The amount of comments on social media asking for a frivolous appeal EVERY time we appeal anything is boring af. Shouldn’t be surprised though really considering so many of the clubs themselves didn’t even understand it, hence why they kept getting whacked by it.


Thank you for explaining. So what was different from the first appeal?
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Saints have accepted result


Are we sure?
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The Reaper wrote:
A frivolous appeal is something fans don’t seem to understand. Making an appeal and losing doesn’t constitute a frivolous appeal. The appeal system is there to be used. A frivolous appeal is when you launch an appeal process but you don’t contend with guilt or the grading, essentially wasting everybody’s time. I always use the Leeds ones as an example: they launched an appeal and basically said “we don’t deny he’s guilty, and the grading is right, but the ban is harsh based on other bans given out this season”. However, they can’t change the ban length unless you prove the player is either not guilty or has been charged with the wrong grade. If you’re not challenging either of those things then there’s literally nothing that can be done and you’ve just wasted everybody’s time by calling an appeal panel together - hence the added punishment

It’s mad how many people have no clue. The amount of comments on social media asking for a frivolous appeal EVERY time we appeal anything is boring af. Shouldn’t be surprised though really considering so many of the clubs themselves didn’t even understand it, hence why they kept getting whacked by it.


Is this covered in the RFL’s rules?
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Is this covered in the RFL’s rules?


I’m not sure as I haven’t read them. If you can find the minutes from the Rhyse Martin fiasco last year, it’s all explained in there. That’s where I first read them

As for your question about the Saints appeal, seems they were accusing the tribunal of making an error in law or failing to act fairly in a procedural sense
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