Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:07 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I've watched the incident a few times but it's difficult to make out for sure if Lees makes contact with the head of Greenwood first. I think he probably does and if that is the case, he is lucky the game was not on TV. It was certainly more out of control than what Shorrocks saw red for in the cup semi and unlike a ducking Micky Lewis, we've got a 6ft 5 Joe Greenwood here, running upright in to contact. I said I had no issue with the Shorrocks incident in the semi because they're reasonably consistent and players get sent off for them now but maybe that's just if the game is on TV and the VR looks a numerous slow motion replays.

Greenwoods red is extremely soft but I suppose you can't move your elbow towards somebody, even if you think you've been attacked to the head and should instead fall to the floor and play dead because that is what the rules are encouraging nowadays. As for Knowles, well he does Knowles things on the floor but they won't ban him for that.

Leaves the floor/jumps to hit him that high so reckless at the least
Also Lees throws a punch at Greenwood whilst everyone is still standing doesn't he ?

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:20 am  

It's Knowles who you could possibly say is throwing a punch but he just grabs his collar in the end and I can't see them pinning him for it.

If that game was on TV, I think Lees sees red, Greenwood sees red and Knowles might have got spoken to as well. As it was, Greenwood get hit high, Knowles then starts to rough him up and Greenwood gets sent off for his troubles. You can't help but feel a bit sorry for him.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:40 am  

Knowles reacts to his mate getting elbowed in the face however seems to me to be more of an arm grab rather than a clenched fist strike. Lees may/may not cop a ban given the contact but what annoys me is the coverage we are getting. Watson openly asking for the RFL to look at this incident, when was the last time a coach does that? This is to deflect attention from his underperforming team and him as a coach.

I see he makes little reference to the cannonball tackle on Percival which was a shocker and may well see English getting a few games. Hill also had his head in Lees face at one point too, we can all find incidents.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:58 am  

Stu M wrote:

Knowles reacts to his mate getting elbowed in the face however seems to me to be more of an arm grab rather than a clenched fist strike. Lees may/may not cop a ban given the contact but what annoys me is the coverage we are getting. Watson openly asking for the RFL to look at this incident, when was the last time a coach does that? This is to deflect attention from his underperforming team and him as a coach.

I see he makes little reference to the cannonball tackle on Percival which was a shocker and may well see English getting a few games. Hill also had his head in Lees face at one point too, we can all find incidents.

Makes no odds to us, we're done with both teams till the play-offs and I can't see anyone picking up a 7+ ban but it'll give us a giggle if RedVee goes all RFL conspiracy again IF a Saints player gets a ban out of all of this

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:39 pm  

Two games for Lees, none for Greenwood, no mention of Knowles and a caution for English.

I'm surprised they've gone against Thalers decision on the field tbh and it's not a great look for him that they have done so.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:45 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Two games for Lees, none for Greenwood, no mention of Knowles and a caution for English.

I'm surprised they've gone against Thalers decision on the field tbh and it's not a great look for him that they have done so.

I'm not esp after Watson had his say!!

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:56 pm  

thesaint71 wrote:

I'm not esp after Watson had his say!!

Coaches having their say seems to be catching on this past few weeks.

Watson moaning or not, it's a ban isn't it? That can't be seen by anyone as being a fair challenge, not in the modern game.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:28 pm  

It's a conspiracy I tells you!!!

Coaches coming out and questioning the integrity of officials or the disciplinary is not what we want to see. Well, unless it's Wellens in which case it will be warranted and fully justified.

I'm all for solidarity and building an "us against them" team mentality but the way Saints go on is just a whole different level.

Win and they're the greatest and it was against all the odds. Like St Pat's beating the Kangaroos.

Lose and it was everyone elses fault and everyone is against them.

Mental.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:36 pm  

apollosghost wrote:

Makes no odds to us, we're done with both teams till the play-offs and I can't see anyone picking up a 7+ ban but it'll give us a giggle if RedVee goes all RFL conspiracy again IF a Saints player gets a ban out of all of this

and so it begins .....

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:03 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Two games for Lees, none for Greenwood, no mention of Knowles and a caution for English.

I'm surprised they've gone against Thalers decision on the field tbh and it's not a great look for him that they have done so.

The Knowles one seems strange. Looks to me like he goes in with the head whilst Greenwood is on the floor.