: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:09 pm  

CAM. wrote:

If IL lets Carmont leave then he is an idiot. Simple as.

Disagree.

Carmont on a one year deal, yes.
Carmont on a two year deal, no.

: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:13 pm  

CAM. wrote:

If IL lets Carmont leave then he is an idiot. Simple as.

How can you look at so simplistically.

We have absolutely no idea of the financial terms he's looking for, for all we know he could be asking for a fair wedge for 2 years. It's impossible to say somebody is an idiot for not signing him when we don't have the facts.

: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:28 pm  

Steve Ella's Beard wrote:

How can you look at so simplistically.

We have absolutely no idea of the financial terms he's looking for, for all we know he could be asking for a fair wedge for 2 years. It's impossible to say somebody is an idiot for not signing him when we don't have the facts.

Now, now, now, SEB - why question what for some people seems to be a lifetime hobby?

: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:29 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Disagree.

Carmont on a one year deal, yes.
Carmont on a two year deal, no.

Depends how much he gets paid for that year? It would be great to see him playing still but giving him time to rest for Thornley and a few others to get a chance.

: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:29 pm  

How many more chances does Goulding need, he's had plenty of shots to prove himself but always comes off as being a selfish player, trade hime to Wakey or somewhere, he is not Wigan standard

: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:40 pm  

Baked Bean Boogie wrote:

How many more chances does Goulding need, he's had plenty of shots to prove himself but always comes off as being a selfish player, trade hime to Wakey or somewhere, he is not Wigan standard

I'd be inclined to agree about Goulding.

I can't decide about Carmont and what we should do with him.

Part of me looks at other players in the league and says yes we should give him the two years as he's still heads and shoulders above the other centres out there.

It's a tough call to make but i still think i'd be inclined to offer him a new 2 year deal.

Maybe pay as you play on the 2nd year?

It's a tough decision. I'm still very curious about Lote's availability as well.

Another OT point BTW;

If MM think he's worth it IL would give him a 2 year deal i have no doubts about that so all this penny pinching cr@p is nonsense as well.

: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:00 pm  

If Carmont was English he would be a shoe in for the national team. I'd give him two years (or spend the next two seasons regretting it as he tears us up)

: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:05 pm  

thepriestman85 wrote:

all this penny pinching cr@p is nonsense as well.

Never a truer word spoken.

You don't buy a rugby league club that isn't viable as a buisness to make money. Everyone slates Whelan for buying over the hill, over rated aussies all the time, and some people slate IL for not doing that. Fact is we CANT get an inglis, a folou or anyone else in their prime. Not with the cap. No super league team is signing big name aussies.

I would definatly give George the 2 year deal as long as there are some release clauses, like a game time deal or something along those lines. I can't see us getting a centre in with the same class as Carmont for the same money.

I don't think he has a big name signing up for 2011 either, I think he has a couple of our youth players in mind. Thornley will be ready for a few games by then no doubt. The jury is still out on Goulding for me, he doesn't seem good enough, but maybe we haven't seen the best of him. We will see.

: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:39 pm  

Odemwingie wrote:

Correct, sorry.

Arnt you the guy who said 100 percent that Adrian Lam was your new manager ? And also that Ritchie Myler was going to Wigan ?

You dont seem to know much, or hang about with people that do.

Re: George Carmont : Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:03 pm  

Odemwingie wrote:

Maybe the plan is to let Goulding step up and also let Bailey go and strengthen other areas.

risky to say the least

i dont think goulding will ever become more than a solid tackler and hard worker