: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:33 pm  

odemwingie wrote:

Hull FC have got it spot on.

They may have it spot on in terms of getting in their early but i'm not overly convinced with their signings.

Long and Fitzgibbon have 2 seasons maximum left in them and haven't been at their best for a while, O'Meely is crocked and again hasn't been at his best for a while and Tansey is average.

It's all weel and good getting your signings in early if they're of the right quality.

We do need to get moving though. Mr Lenagan isn't one to rush but we can't afford to keep missing out on our targets year after year.

We need a minium of-

Class Halfback

Class prop

and possibly another player or 2 dependant on who leaves so I hope he's got something up his sleeve.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:33 pm  

AJ wrote:

Or have taken several sizeable risks that could easily backfire.

O'Meley and Fitzy will do the job.

Long could turn our to be a great signing.

Tansey is stil young and could take a few seasons, but I am confident with his experience in the NRL he will come back a better player.

Other than that they have got it right because it is all settled early, the players, fans and coach all know whats happening.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:38 pm  

AJ wrote:

Or have taken several sizeable risks that could easily backfire.

I agree, who knows who all four will turn out.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:39 pm  

odemwingie wrote:

O'Meley and Fitzy will do the job.

Long could turn our to be a great signing.

Tansey is stil young and could take a few seasons, but I am confident with his experience in the NRL he will come back a better player.

Other than that they have got it right because it is all settled early, the players, fans and coach all know whats happening.

That's the key point for me transparency, as yet we've signed no one and all the rumours have dried up, so who's being signed and when is up in the air, hopefully whoever we do sign we'll all be happy with and they can do a job for us.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:42 pm  

odemwingie wrote:

O'Meley and Fitzy will do the job.

Long could turn our to be a great signing.

Tansey is stil young and could take a few seasons, but I am confident with his experience in the NRL he will come back a better player.

Other than that they have got it right because it is all settled early, the players, fans and coach all know whats happening.

I feel that if we'd signed an old scrum half, one old Aussie forward, one crocked Aussie forward and a young full-back who never impressed me when he was last over here, the chairman's name would be mud - not just among certain Wigan fans, but among other RL fans too.

I agree it's better than nothing. But we haven't got nothing yet. We're bound to make a couple of signings, plus we've got the ongoing development of our youngsters, with Sam on a new extended contract and Mossop about to pitch in at full speed.

I don't think we're getting it totally wrong.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:44 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

I feel that if we'd signed an old scrum half, one old Aussie forward, one crocked Aussie forward and a young full-back who never impressed me when he was last over here, the chairman's name would be mud - not just among certain Wigan fans, but among other RL fans too.

I agree it's better than nothing. But we haven't got nothing yet. We're bound to make a couple of signings, plus we've got the ongoing development of our youngsters, with Sam on a new extended contract and Mossop about to pitch in at full speed.

I don't think we're getting it totally wrong.

Thats what they need though, it's not just about the players the have signed, its how they have done it which impresses me.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:10 pm  

odemwingie wrote:

Thats what they need though, it's not just about the players the have signed, its how they have done it which impresses me.

All club's needs are different. I feel Wigan have now passed the point where short-term fixes are the answer. We suddenly have a very young squad, and quite a sizable one.

I've never believed in this 'Wigan lads should come first' argument, or even that 'youth is everything'. But I do think that with so many kids about to break into the first team ranks, to sign yet another bunch of oldies would have been a backward step in that the young guns would feel they were beng sidelined again.

I can see merit in signing Long, given that seeing Sam partnered by an experiened half would have done him good, but Long has a lot of baggage where many Wigan fans are concerned and is yet another of the game's bad boys, so there are arguments against.

As for the timing. Yes, Hull have indeed done a good job in getting it all tied up early. But I don't think that's the be-all and end-all, especially if those new players go on to disappoint.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:18 pm  

Next year, I want to see a coach who will implement abit of flair into the team - a bit like Saints have had for the last few years. Not scared to pass the ball around and try a few things differently instead of 5 drives and a kick straight down the full backs throat.

In fairness, the last 2 games have seen us try a few different things - and maybe its because Sam has had a major role in both games instead of a bit part one.

Id give Bailey another year, just because weve lost Hock for a few years.

Phelps

Richards
Carmont
Gleeson
Roberts

New SO
S Tomkins

Fielden
Tommy
New Prop

Bailey
New SR

O'Loughlin

Subs

Feka
McIlorum
Prescott
J Tomkins

Something like that would be a big improvement for me, as long as the signings are quality. In an ideal world Id like to rid Fielden and get 2 different props in all together but chances of that are very slim?

The new Second rower has to be like effective in defence and attack - like Joynt was at Saints - a leader around the park wouldnt go a miss either.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:21 pm  

Ashton Warrior wrote:

Next year, I want to see a coach who will implement abit of flair into the team - a bit like Saints have had for the last few years. Not scared to pass the ball around and try a few things differently instead of 5 drives and a kick straight down the full backs throat.

In fairness, the last 2 games have seen us try a few different things - and maybe its because Sam has had a major role in both games instead of a bit part one.

Id give Bailey another year, just because weve lost Hock for a few years.

Phelps

Richards
Carmont
Gleeson
Roberts

New SO
S Tomkins

Fielden
Tommy
New Prop

Bailey
New SR

O'Loughlin

Subs

Feka
McIlorum
Prescott
J Tomkins

Something like that would be a big improvement for me, as long as the signings are quality. In an ideal world Id like to rid Fielden and get 2 different props in all together but chances of that are very slim?

The new Second rower has to be like effective in defence and attack - like Joynt was at Saints - a leader around the park wouldnt go a miss either.

Surely Mossop will be first choice to take Hocks place.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:21 pm  

odemwingie wrote:

Surely Mossop will be first choice to take Hocks place.

All depends how he returns at the back end of this season for me.