: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:01 pm  

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

Looks like I've hit a nerve

You didn't hit a nerve mate your just talking utter balls

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

Why are you mentioning Bailey and Diskin?

because you mentioned the player that didn't play and the only 2 players that might have played that didn't were disco n bailey!! Unless you mean the England lads which would be garbage too!!

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:03 pm  

Leyther_till_death wrote:

Although it's wrong to take drugs and I'm a Leyther, I can't help but feel sorry for Hock, he cleary can't do anything else other than play rugby. There is no way he will be able to get a job,

Perfect summing up of the situation Hock faces.

He’s been a ‘pro rugby player’ since leaving school and never had to deal with the other stuff people with regular jobs have to learn sharpish. In the rugby world he could some times rest on his laurels as he had the talent to make it up but looking at him his only talent is rugby probably. He’s going to come down to earth with a massive shock

Hopefully this will do him good as not only will he see what he’s lost but he’s now going to have to start thinking about a career out of rugby much earlier than what he would have had to do. Maybe he can use this time to not only train the house down but also gain some qualifications or get a skill because with the money he’s on what ever career he decides to take he may be able to get others in around him to be the boss or run his own place.

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:08 pm  

Leyther_till_death wrote:

Although it's wrong to take drugs and I'm a Leyther, I can't help but feel sorry for Hock, he cleary can't do anything else other than play rugby. There is no way he will be able to get a job, the guy can't string a sentance together but only time will tell what the results are and how Wigan react to the results.

There's no doubting his ability, but at the height of his career when we're seeing him become a fine, fine player he's only got himself (and no doubt his circle of friends) to blame for his errors.

Pretty strong sweeping statement there. Didn't realise you had to recite Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast Trilogy to get a job.

I also believe it is spelt 'sentence'. What day do you 'sign on' then?

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:15 pm  

Dave T wrote:

Your first point isn;t that accurate. Reardon was our first choice fullback, who got injured so missed much of last year. He retained the number 1 shirt for this year, and would have been a key part of the squad without injuries and off field issues.

Agree with your 2nd point, and that may be the way to get him to focus and sort himself out for the next couple of years.

Yeah mate i thought about the wording of Reardon as a bit part player when i put it but you know what i mean. He sort of had become that because of injuries and Wire were more then happy to free up his cap space.

They wouldn't have done that if Morley had done the same thing and we all know that. We only need to look at Saints with Pryce(and before anyone starts Saints had no reason to sack Pryce imo).

Hock is as thick as 2 short planks and has probably missed the guidance of players like Farrell and Radlinski more then anybody else. He's made big big mistakes and should be punished but also should be given a 2nd chance imo if he makes some promises to the Wigan club.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:22 pm  

sgtwilko wrote:

You didn't hit a nerve mate your just talking utter balls

because you mentioned the player that didn't play and the only 2 players that might have played that didn't were disco n bailey!! Unless you mean the England lads which would be garbage too!!

Yep - you don't know what you're talking about.

No change there then.

Keep digging.

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:22 pm  

I think some people should get a reality check.

The guy has allegedly taken drugs. He has not murdered anyone.


If he is guilty he will have to take the punishment. After that as far as I am concerned he could come back into the Wigan team with no questions asked, and no explanation necessary.


The question is can he do it? Will he want to?

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:27 pm  

I am effin angry at Gaz Hock for throwing away a very bright career not to mention pretty gutted that I won’t be able to watch him breaking the line week in week out.

However

The thing is, let’s be honest there are people playing in the SL who have done far worse things than the odd line or two. Whilst I agree a two year ban should be delivered if found guilty, for me people like Ben Cockyane deserve a greater punishment for their own particular offence.

It is indicative of the UK mentality to punish a drug user more severely than someone who has caused physical harm to another human.

Hock should be kept on at the club in some capacity, you cannot throw someone to the curb when he has not harmed anyone but himself. He will then have a chance to repay the people he has let down by fulfilling a community role before playing for us after his ban on a much reduced contract.
I would like to think that he feels pretty crap at the moment, but he isn’t a bad lad.
We have all made mistakes

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:30 pm  

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

Yep - you don't know what you're talking about.

No change there then.

Keep digging.

well I said roberts was nothing special and I got that right!! I'm also pretty sure why tony smith was happy to see the back of gleeson!!

But your the one with all the facts big shot!!

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:33 pm  

sgtwilko wrote:

well I said roberts was nothing special and I got that right!! I'm also pretty sure why tony smith was happy to see the back of gleeson!!

But your the one with all the facts big shot!!

Oof. Someone touched a nerve again?

You have too many to count.

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:43 pm  

RB wrote: It took 17 days for the club to be informed after the A test. I wonder if it will take that long with the B test. See following link. The way I read it the B sample is just for verification as it's from the same sample split into two namely A & B. http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/docu ... _Flyer.pdf

RB wrote: It took 17 days for the club to be informed after the A test. I wonder if it will take that long with the B test. See following link. The way I read it the B sample is just for verification as it's from the same sample split into two namely A & B. http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/docu ... _Flyer.pdf