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Re: Stains v Cas : Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:33 pm  
Geoff wrote:
The one and only Shaun Edwards, in the 1990 Cup Final v Warrington. It was the last match of the season in those days, so no.

we did play a premiership match the week after but lost to Bradford.

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Bilko hasn't got the team for that one but I'd bet that Edwards didn't feature.
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The one and only Shaun Edwards, in the 1990 Cup Final v Warrington. It was the last match of the season in those days, so no.

we did play a premiership match the week after but lost to Bradford.

http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=409

Bilko hasn't got the team for that one but I'd bet that Edwards didn't feature.
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Re: Stains v Cas : Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:12 pm  
Pemps wrote:
we did play a premiership match the week after but lost to Bradford.

http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=409

Bilko hasn't got the team for that one but I'd bet that Edwards didn't feature.


I'd forgotten about that, I think I missed it due to a week-long hangover...
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we did play a premiership match the week after but lost to Bradford.

http://wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=409

Bilko hasn't got the team for that one but I'd bet that Edwards didn't feature.


I'd forgotten about that, I think I missed it due to a week-long hangover...
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Re: Stains v Cas : Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:47 pm  
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So a load of newspaper articles that clearly didn't pick up on the official club statement are more reliable than the official club statement which categorically states that a specialist had confirmed he HADN'T fractured his eye socket?


You mean the ones that received the official press release rather than an unofficial website statement? BIG difference.

Do you know many other players who play the week after fracturing their eye socket? Got a link to Wakefield admitting they got it wrong in the original statement?


Try ringing them up. I did. They happily confirmed it was wrong.

None of the links you provide have Wakefield saying he fractured his eye socket, my link categorically has them stating he didn't :lol:


How about the article BY JAMES STOSIC HIMSELF? Forget that one?

Bottom line is Wakey cried wolf to get KC banned, then backtracked because there was nothing wrong with Stosic and made out like he's some sort of hero for soldiering on to save face.


Bottom line is, a press release is much more reliable than a hurried statement on a website, and that is what the press would have written their reports from.

But then does it really matter whether Stosic was injured or not? Cunningham still punched him in the face like a thug. You can't argue that particular fact.
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Re: Stains v Cas : Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:04 pm  
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But then does it really matter whether Stosic was injured or not? Cunningham still punched him in the face like a thug. You can't argue that particular fact.


Nor have I tried to.

But if you think KC is at the front of the thug queue, you either haven't watched much rugby or are massively bitter. After playing in the front row for 16 years you can probably count his genuine indiscretions on one hand and I can't remember him ever being sent off (although I could be wrong there).

If lashing out with his ball carrying arm in a tackle is the worst you can come up with (for which he didn't receive a ban, given his exemplary disciplinary record) then that says a lot. Would you say Coley is a thug, given he's had a red card in 2010? What about Hock, with a ban for manhandling a ref? No? Thought not.
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Re: Stains v Cas : Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:33 pm  
Cunningham has been a great RL player for Saints and never a thug. My only complaint I have ever had with him, was taking the Rugby League loyalty money and then turning his back on England / GB.

He could and should have played for Wigan.
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Re: Stains v Cas : Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:51 pm  
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You mean the ones that received the official press release rather than an unofficial website statement? BIG difference.

Try ringing them up. I did. They happily confirmed it was wrong.

How about the article BY JAMES STOSIC HIMSELF? Forget that one?

Bottom line is, a press release is much more reliable than a hurried statement on a website, and that is what the press would have written their reports from.

But then does it really matter whether Stosic was injured or not? Cunningham still punched him in the face like a thug. You can't argue that particular fact.


You actually rang the club, to try and see if KC had injured someone? That is incredibly sad and really bordering on obsession, a fact that seems to be being picked up by more and more people. Chill out! Stop your One Man crusade against all things Saints. It might help you live longer.
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Re: Stains v Cas : Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:38 pm  
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What about Hock, with a ban for manhandling a ref? No? Thought not.


I think that rule must have been rescinded, otherwise at the moment there would be players getting banned most weeks. :-)
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Re: Stains v Cas : Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:14 pm  
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Cunningham has been a great RL player for Saints and never a thug. My only complaint I have ever had with him, was taking the Rugby League loyalty money and then turning his back on England / GB.

He could and should have played for Wigan.



I think he lived in Beech Hill for a spell and played for St Judes.
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Re: Stains v Cas : Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:16 pm  
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Cunningham has been a great RL player for Saints and never a thug. My only complaint I have ever had with him, was taking the Rugby League loyalty money and then turning his back on England / GB.


By turning his back I assume you mean nearly ending his career picking up a horrible injury in a GB shirt?

And what has England got to do with KC?
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Re: Stains v Cas : Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:59 pm  
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Nor have I tried to.

But if you think KC is at the front of the thug queue, you either haven't watched much rugby or are massively bitter. After playing in the front row for 16 years you can probably count his genuine indiscretions on one hand and I can't remember him ever being sent off (although I could be wrong there).

If lashing out with his ball carrying arm in a tackle is the worst you can come up with (for which he didn't receive a ban, given his exemplary disciplinary record) then that says a lot. Would you say Coley is a thug, given he's had a red card in 2010? What about Hock, with a ban for manhandling a ref? No? Thought not.


I said Coley was a thug before he came to Wigan and didn't like the idea of us signing him. He has been a lot better since coming to Wigan, but I still worry when he plays that he's going to let himself and the club down.

Hock, well... great rugby player spoiled by the same problem.

Cunningham has done a lot more than just the Stosic incident and is one of the worst thugs SL has seen. It's the fact that he's got away with SO much over the years that really riles me when people call him "King" or "Legend". The fact is, there's been better hookers at St Helens, not just in SL. Cunningham struggles to pass backwards from the play the ball, for Chrissakes!

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Cunningham has been a great RL player for Saints and never a thug. My only complaint I have ever had with him, was taking the Rugby League loyalty money and then turning his back on England / GB.

He could and should have played for Wigan.


If he'd played for Wigan, I'd have choked on my own vomit.

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You actually rang the club, to try and see if KC had injured someone? That is incredibly sad and really bordering on obsession, a fact that seems to be being picked up by more and more people. Chill out! Stop your One Man crusade against all things Saints. It might help you live longer.


No, it's not sad, it's called "Research". Are you going to say every Rugby League reporter is sad when they do theirs? Do you look at the disciplinary news on the RFL website? You're sad if you do. The thing is, Saints fans argued and argued (and still do, despite all the evidence) that Cunningham didn't fracture Stosic's eye socket, so I found out for definite, from the Wakefield media department, that that particular page was wrong.

Now, to actually say something positive about Saints, I'll be glad when Potter's gone for the simple fact that you won't have a coach who insists on bringing back a future GB star too early after injury. Eastmond needs a rest, for God's sake give it to him before GB and/or SL loses out on this talent through repeated injury. There is a player I WOULD want at Wigan, and he's a million percent better than Cunningham ever was.
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