Re: Dream Team 2023 : Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:42 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

Saw this on Twitter, amazing stat.

Bevan French
2020 - Dream Team FB
2021 - Injured whole season
2022 - Dream Team Winger
2023 - Dream Team Standoff

Still can’t believe he didn’t win Man Of Steel in 2020 and Paul McShane did. Trent Barrett levels of robbery that. He has to win it this year, Lam has been good but hasn’t stood out like French has. Hasn’t done much since the CC final.

Re: Dream Team 2023 : Sun Sep 24, 2023 11:01 pm  

I thought it was a joke at first when someone posted the list.

Re: Dream Team 2023 : Sun Sep 24, 2023 11:03 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

So it’s
Welsby, Charnley, SKD, Wardle, Johnstone, French, Lam, Amone, Ipape, Vaughan, Watkins, Farrell, Asiata

Watkins is really random.
SKD has 7 tries and 4 assists all season…
I predicted it but 5 Leigh players when they finished 5th is crazy.

I would add SKD and Farrell to the random list

Re: Dream Team 2023 : Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:52 am  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

I would add SKD and Farrell to the random list

Top second rower for metres made, 2nd for tackles and tries scored, an average year for Farrell by his standards is still better than any second rower.

Re: Dream Team 2023 : Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:59 am  

CJamesy wrote:

Top second rower for metres made, 2nd for tackles and tries scored, an average year for Farrell by his standards is still better than any second rower.

Absolutely correct. He’s that good that an average year by his standards, is better than pretty much every other second rower. A lot of people’s people mention Whitley, yet Faz has made nearly twice the amount of metres he has. He’s made a couple of hundred more tackles than most of the other second rowers in the conversation. He’s scored more try’s than any of them. It all just points to what a freak he is because we’d all say he’s not been on top of his game but he still easily warrants his place. He isn’t competing against himself, he’s competing against his peers.

Re: Dream Team 2023 : Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:22 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

Absolutely correct. He’s that good that an average year by his standards, is better than pretty much every other second rower. A lot of people’s people mention Whitley, yet Faz has made nearly twice the amount of metres he has. He’s made a couple of hundred more tackles than most of the other second rowers in the conversation. He’s scored more try’s than any of them. It all just points to what a freak he is because we’d all say he’s not been on top of his game but he still easily warrants his place. He isn’t competing against himself, he’s competing against his peers.

Given our conversation the other week when I was off with my knee and you provided a much needed distraction what do you think of Welsby over Field? Interestingly the Wigan fans who have posted their own team selection on here have all had Welsby over him too.....

Re: Dream Team 2023 : Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:41 am  

Stu M wrote:

Given our conversation the other week when I was off with my knee and you provided a much needed distraction what do you think of Welsby over Field? Interestingly the Wigan fans who have posted their own team selection on here have all had Welsby over him too.....

I agree with it because it's picked over a full season and Field has missed too many games to get in, just as Miski missed too many at the beginning and just as guys like Sironen have missed too many as well. Sironen is a better player than Kallum Watkins but he's not in because that's not how it works.

I re-watched our game last night and Field was immense actually. I hadn't realise just how well he'd played on the night. He does things Welsby just cannot do but I guess we're going over old ground. He's a better fullback than Welsby IMO but Welsby would be better playing at 6. Interesting to look at the final tallies for try contributions (trys and assists). Field finished on 37, compared to Welsby on 39. Field did that in 7 less games. He missed a quarter of the season and had to spend time getting back from a bad hamstring injury.

Re: Dream Team 2023 : Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:40 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I agree with it because it's picked over a full season and Field has missed too many games to get in, just as Miski missed too many at the beginning and just as guys like Sironen have missed too many as well. Sironen is a better player than Kallum Watkins but he's not in because that's not how it works.

I re-watched our game last night and Field was immense actually. I hadn't realise just how well he'd played on the night. He does things Welsby just cannot do but I guess we're going over old ground. He's a better fullback than Welsby IMO but Welsby would be better playing at 6. Interesting to look at the final tallies for try contributions (trys and assists). Field finished on 37, compared to Welsby on 39. Field did that in 7 less games. He missed a quarter of the season and had to spend time getting back from a bad hamstring injury.

Spot on

Re: Dream Team 2023 : Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:49 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

Absolutely correct. He’s that good that an average year by his standards, is better than pretty much every other second rower. A lot of people’s people mention Whitley, yet Faz has made nearly twice the amount of metres he has. He’s made a couple of hundred more tackles than most of the other second rowers in the conversation. He’s scored more try’s than any of them. It all just points to what a freak he is because we’d all say he’s not been on top of his game but he still easily warrants his place. He isn’t competing against himself, he’s competing against his peers.

And we have a "Few" of our own fans that say he's finished, been poor, and after one extraordinary chat at Headingley a while back saying "Hes done nothing" (and then proceeded to score a try/set one up IIRC with a trademark break).

Reminds me of someone saying about 4 years ago that "Hes not big enough" etc etc and that we should go for "Someone like Dom Peyroux" to replace him
One thing I think we could agree on is that Liam Farrell is definitely No Dom Peyroux.

Re: Dream Team 2023 : Mon Sep 25, 2023 12:46 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Absolutely correct. He’s that good that an average year by his standards, is better than pretty much every other second rower. A lot of people’s people mention Whitley, yet Faz has made nearly twice the amount of metres he has. He’s made a couple of hundred more tackles than most of the other second rowers in the conversation. He’s scored more try’s than any of them. It all just points to what a freak he is because we’d all say he’s not been on top of his game but he still easily warrants his place. He isn’t competing against himself, he’s competing against his peers.

Farrell is absolute class and anyone who can't see that is blind as a bat.