Re: Manly game with Wane and Hampson : Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:47 am  

Stu M wrote:

Personally I feel that as soon as Wane accepted his role back at Wigan, that someone else should become England coach. My worry is that his feelings towards Saints will impact on his England role. I sincerely hope that they won't and from his point of view he would be foolish not to select relevant Saints players in his squad due to their ability.

I just feel that there is a conflict of interest now combining both jobs. This isn't Wigan or Wane bashing either, I said the same when Jon Wells took his Director role at Castleford and he was still a Sky Sports pundit. Again there was a conflict of interest. In my opinion.

I listened to a podcast a few months ago where Walmsley said that Wane couldn't bring himself to congratulate the Saints lads on their GF win and he was speaking to them through gritted teeth. Whilst Walmsley was joking about it my worry was and is that now he is back at Wigan, it may influence some of his decisions.

Regarding the thread, Woolf will do what he feels is right for Saints, he is employed by them to achieve success and paid well for doing so. Its similar to Ferguson at Utd when he used to clash with England managers, he always put Utd first. I agree its not great for England but until Saints have an English coach, the situation may not change.

Wane praises Johnny Lomax at any opportunity.

He will pick the team thinks will get the job done.

Re: Manly game with Wane and Hampson : Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:48 am  

Walmsley is probably the first name on his team sheet. You couldn't get a more 'Waney' player.

Re: Manly game with Wane and Hampson : Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:50 am  

MattyB wrote:

Walmsley is probably the first name on his team sheet. You couldn't get a more 'Waney' player.

Trust me he's not always rated him. Lomax I agree with, he loves him but he has had reservations about Walmsley in relation to his defence.

Re: Manly game with Wane and Hampson : Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:17 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Trust me he's not always rated him. Lomax I agree with, he loves him but he has had reservations about Walmsley in relation to his defence.

And rightly so. Walmsley himself would be the first to agree that his game wasn't fully rounded in his early days. He clearly rates him now, and again, rightly so. How is that showing anti Saints bias?

Re: Manly game with Wane and Hampson : Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:33 pm  

If Wane picks any Wigan players he is on a hiding to nothing.

Re: Manly game with Wane and Hampson : Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:35 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Personally I feel that as soon as Wane accepted his role back at Wigan, that someone else should become England coach. My worry is that his feelings towards Saints will impact on his England role. I sincerely hope that they won't and from his point of view he would be foolish not to select relevant Saints players in his squad due to their ability.

I just feel that there is a conflict of interest now combining both jobs. This isn't Wigan or Wane bashing either, I said the same when Jon Wells took his Director role at Castleford and he was still a Sky Sports pundit. Again there was a conflict of interest. In my opinion.

I listened to a podcast a few months ago where Walmsley said that Wane couldn't bring himself to congratulate the Saints lads on their GF win and he was speaking to them through gritted teeth. Whilst Walmsley was joking about it my worry was and is that now he is back at Wigan, it may influence some of his decisions.

Regarding the thread, Woolf will do what he feels is right for Saints, he is employed by them to achieve success and paid well for doing so. Its similar to Ferguson at Utd when he used to clash with England managers, he always put Utd first. I agree its not great for England but until Saints have an English coach, the situation may not change.

Waney is a very proud Englishman.
He will play the best 17 available irrespective of who they play for.
He wants to win the World Cup.
Trust me he dislikes Aussies more than any Saints player and wants to put one over them.

Re: Manly game with Wane and Hampson : Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:36 pm  

Phuzzy wrote:

And rightly so. Walmsley himself would be the first to agree that his game wasn't fully rounded in his early days. He clearly rates him now, and again, rightly so. How is that showing anti Saints bias?

It was probably daft of me to reference Walmsley in my post, clearly he will be picked as he's the best prop in the comp by a distance.

Its just my opinion thats all, I feel there is a conflict of interest when a club member of staff is the International coach. Wane hates Saints as much as any Wigan fan does and I've no issues with that, however his role as England manager brings him into direct communication and conversations with Saints. I just hope his feelings play no part in any of his decisions. Again its only my opinion.

Re: Manly game with Wane and Hampson : Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:37 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

Waney is a very proud Englishman.
He will play the best 17 available irrespective of who they play for.
He wants to win the World Cup.
Trust me he dislikes Aussies more than any Saints player and wants to put one over them.

I really hope so and FWIW I think he is the best man for the job by a distance. I just felt that the goalposts moved slightly when he accepted the role back at Wigan.

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Re: Manly game with Wane and Hampson : Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:37 pm  

Stu M wrote:

Personally I feel that as soon as Wane accepted his role back at Wigan, that someone else should become England coach. My worry is that his feelings towards Saints will impact on his England role. I sincerely hope that they won't and from his point of view he would be foolish not to select relevant Saints players in his squad due to their ability.

I just feel that there is a conflict of interest now combining both jobs. This isn't Wigan or Wane bashing either, I said the same when Jon Wells took his Director role at Castleford and he was still a Sky Sports pundit. Again there was a conflict of interest. In my opinion.

I listened to a podcast a few months ago where Walmsley said that Wane couldn't bring himself to congratulate the Saints lads on their GF win and he was speaking to them through gritted teeth. Whilst Walmsley was joking about it my worry was and is that now he is back at Wigan, it may influence some of his decisions.

Regarding the thread, Woolf will do what he feels is right for Saints, he is employed by them to achieve success and paid well for doing so. Its similar to Ferguson at Utd when he used to clash with England managers, he always put Utd first. I agree its not great for England but until Saints have an English coach, the situation may not change.

Sean Wane is a winner. Whatever it takes he wants to win. If that means 7 Saints players and 6 Wire players, he'll do it.

Re: Manly game with Wane and Hampson : Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:52 pm  

Stu M wrote:

I really hope so and FWIW I think he is the best man for the job by a distance. I just felt that the goalposts moved slightly when he accepted the role back at Wigan.

From what I can gather he has no input on the coaching but is very much about improving the management and culture across the whole club.
I don't know for sure but I see his role as more of mentoring rather than tactical or who should be in the squad.

I didn't always agree with his style of play but 2012 in his first year as coach it was absolutely brilliant to watch. The style of play England play could surprise a few people.