Re: Burgess’ Hip : Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:01 pm  

Cbr1000rr wrote:

He's finished. The guy needs to do the decent thing and retire. If i couldn't do my job i wouldn't have one

We let these guys forgo further education, or getting skills and experience in a career, give them a short term contract in the knowledge that we'll wash our hands of them at the end of it if they lose form or get injured. I don't think it's unfair of him to see out his contract when he's given up all that. He presumably has a family to provide for and a lot of these guys don't have a lot of job opportunities beyond rugby. He's trying to get fit and be a good player for Wigan, that is doing the decent thing too. These aren't just pieces of meat who exist solely for our entertainment.

Re: Burgess’ Hip : Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:56 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

We let these guys forgo further education, or getting skills and experience in a career, give them a short term contract in the knowledge that we'll wash our hands of them at the end of it if they lose form or get injured. I don't think it's unfair of him to see out his contract when he's given up all that. He presumably has a family to provide for and a lot of these guys don't have a lot of job opportunities beyond rugby. He's trying to get fit and be a good player for Wigan, that is doing the decent thing too. These aren't just pieces of meat who exist solely for our entertainment.

Fans can be extremely fickle. If a player leaves for a new challenge/bigger contract they are quick to call him for lack of loyalty. If he gets a serious injury they want to bin him off.

Re: Burgess’ Hip : Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:43 pm  

You are looking at this through fans blinkers, and unfortunately this is business.

If he can’t play, he can sit and claim his wages in what will inevitably be his final contract/
/payday.



He’s not going to voluntarily retire, unless he can get a payoff or insurance claim.

Re: Burgess’ Hip : Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:14 pm  

Jordan Rankin wrote:

You are looking at this through fans blinkers, and unfortunately this is business.

If he can’t play, he can sit and claim his wages in what will inevitably be his final contract/
/payday.



He’s not going to voluntarily retire, unless he can get a payoff or insurance claim.

It’s harsh but ultimately what has to happen. Wigan as a club has to come first, more so in �fan less’ times when income is limited. If he can’t play due to injury, he’s got to go. We have to be ruthless though I would like us to show some compassion in this scenario and at least pay him out an amount.

Re: Burgess’ Hip : Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:59 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

It’s harsh but ultimately what has to happen. Wigan as a club has to come first, more so in �fan less’ times when income is limited. If he can’t play due to injury, he’s got to go. We have to be ruthless though I would like us to show some compassion in this scenario and at least pay him out an amount.

like he said that cant be the case, only if he chooses to go can this happen

Re: Burgess’ Hip : Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:01 pm  

Jordan Rankin wrote:

He’s not going to voluntarily retire, unless he can get a payoff or insurance claim.

Absolutely right and who can blame him.

Re: Burgess’ Hip : Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:12 pm  

He’s been given a three year deal and has every right to sit on it and keep picking up his wages. He didn’t hold a gun to the clubs head to sign him. Anybody who says they’d walk away from a big contract by some moral obligation of not being able to earn their salary isn’t being honest with themselves.

Re: Burgess’ Hip : Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:55 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

He’s been given a three year deal and has every right to sit on it and keep picking up his wages. He didn’t hold a gun to the clubs head to sign him. Anybody who says they’d walk away from a big contract by some moral obligation of not being able to earn their salary isn’t being honest with themselves.

It still amazes me that so many fans have the unrealistic view that you can just get rid of a player who is contracted. GB is unlikely to be offloaded unless someone else makes the same mistake that we have made, he is unlikely to want to retire until there is no chance if his recovery and there must be cap implications if he is "paid off". Until Boris changes the rules we still have some protection under employment law.

Re: Burgess’ Hip : Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:43 pm  

The same hip problem that everyone knew was the reason south’s wanted rid because he couldn’t train properly and was common knowledge for the past 3 years?

And then to pay him marquee? LMAO!

Who gave the go ahead to sign him? That’s what should be investigated, not his George’s hip

Re: Burgess’ Hip : Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:47 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

Anybody who says they’d walk away from a big contract by some moral obligation of not being able to earn their salary isn’t being honest with themselves.

Yep, my point exactly.

It’s the equivalent of someone earning a great wage in a job they are not very good at and quitting (without a job to go to) because you know they could employ someone better at it than you are.....

Nobody would leave their family in the “lurch” to help their employer.


It’s not like he’s a lifelong Pie-eater......

Cbr1000rr wrote:

He's finished. The guy needs to do the decent thing and retire. If i couldn't do my job i wouldn't have one

BUT if you have a contract, your employer can’t just get rid of you. They have to adhere to the terms of your contract....








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