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Re: RedVee.net : Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:39 am  
Several on there saying they would stop watching rather than support a team that would 'cheat to win' (sic). Surely they stopped watching after Tommy Martyn's 'Foot of God" or Chris Joynt's voluntary tackle then? Oh sorry, I forgot. It's only cheating if other teams do it, isn't it... :roll:
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Re: RedVee.net : Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:12 am  
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Several on there saying they would stop watching rather than support a team that would 'cheat to win' (sic). Surely they stopped watching after Tommy Martyn's 'Foot of God" or Chris Joynt's voluntary tackle then? Oh sorry, I forgot. It's only cheating if other teams do it, isn't it... :roll:


Saints fans have often dealt with unexpected defeats by seeking a mysterious moral high ground.

Anyone remember their ridiculous search for the little girl in the crowd who Gareth Hock 'deliberately threw the ball at' after they'd suffered another Good Friday hammering?

But any quest to cast their club as the epicentre of grace and virtue failed years ago in my book, when St Helens responded to the betting scandal by getting rid of Martin Gleeson but hanging onto main offender (and much better player), Sean Long.
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Re: RedVee.net : Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:22 am  
Cut um some slack there in pain just didn't see it coming poor lot
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Re: RedVee.net : Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:45 am  
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Phuzzy wrote:
Several on there saying they would stop watching rather than support a team that would 'cheat to win' (sic). Surely they stopped watching after Tommy Martyn's 'Foot of God" or Chris Joynt's voluntary tackle then? Oh sorry, I forgot. It's only cheating if other teams do it, isn't it... :roll:


Saints fans have often dealt with unexpected defeats by seeking a mysterious moral high ground.

Anyone remember their ridiculous search for the little girl in the crowd who Gareth Hock 'deliberately threw the ball at' after they'd suffered another Good Friday hammering?

But any quest to cast their club as the epicentre of grace and virtue failed years ago in my book, when St Helens responded to the betting scandal by getting rid of Martin Gleeson but hanging onto main offender (and much better player), Sean Long.


They did even better this year,
1) when some Saints fans tied to goad the Wire players which was c;ear;y seen on SKY it was the wire players fault for targeting a Saints player in the tackle, and the other explanation was that these heroes went to the aid of the cheerleaders that were near the incident

"Let's just look at what happened in the cold light of day here before anyone does anything.Ball had gone out of play Lineham tips up Barba and almost spears his head into the ground,Barba complains and Lineham puts his head into Barba assisted by Rathcford pushing Barba towards the fence and all the Warrington team join in followed by the Saints lads. Three of the cheerleader girls are sat by the fence in obvious danger at this point.

Sky's commentary interpretation was a disgrace (just watched it). Lineham should have been sin-binned at least. Childs was not helped by his partially sighted linesman who missed almost everything for most of the game.

What exactly did the fan do to warrant any action apart from 'comment' to a Warrington player he barely touched him. If he upset BMM then suites me because a minute later BMM gives the penalty away.

The situation was completely caused by the actions of the Warrington players who had an agenda throughout the game.

Chris Hill is a poor captain as he was involved in most of the handbags and verbals."

2) after getting ripped a new one by catalans, they were asking fans to get in touch with the RL and complain that Kenny Edwards had thrown a ball nearly decapitating one of their fans

"I suggest that everyone should email the RFL with details of what occurred. Something like:



I wish to draw attention to the behaviour of Catalans player Kenny Edwards in the 62nd minute of the match when he deliberately and maliciously threw a ball at the Saints fans, striking a young woman and a child. This incident was not in the heat of the moment, adjacent to the play, but at the opposite end of the stadium to where a try had just been scored and Edwards had carried the ball some distance upfield in order to launch his attack.

I find this behaviour to be totally unacceptable and request that the RFL conduct an investigation into the player’s conduct. I await your response with details of what action will be taken. "
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Re: RedVee.net : Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:33 am  
There's poster on there that pointed out Saints had only won one trophy in the last ten seasons.
I didn't know that until reading it but no wonder they are unhappy.
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Re: RedVee.net : Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:56 am  
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There's poster on there that pointed out Saints had only won one trophy in the last ten seasons.
I didn't know that until reading it but no wonder they are unhappy.


And the trophy they won they were very fortunate scraping home against you lot with 12 men for 75 minutes. Its really been pretty much nothing but pain since 2008 for them, 5 straight GF losses, no CC win since then not even a final and this year must be tipping them over the edge after people (mainly the SKY team) were giving them the treble already at easter yet they fall in the two semis.

Like someone else said, they do look strong again next year, but like Cas have some big mental hurdles to overcome and the scars left on them from this season will take some healing.
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Re: RedVee.net : Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:00 pm  
Father Ted wrote:
There's poster on there that pointed out Saints had only won one trophy in the last ten seasons.
I didn't know that until reading it but no wonder they are unhappy.


And that was a gift courtesy of Ben Flower! They exist on handouts these days as they're incapable of winning on merit! :lol:

P. S. Check out the guys explanation of why it was still a heroic win despite playing 78 minutes against a 12 man team... It's hilarious!

Beat me to it Biff! :D
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Re: RedVee.net : Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:53 pm  
Unfortunately the idiots tend to be the loudest keyboard warriors. A minority of St Helens fans fall into that category, as do a minority of Wigan fans and every other club for that matter.

Our turn for disappointment will come whether that be next Saturday, next season or some time in the future. When it does there will be a similar thread to this on redvee.
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Re: RedVee.net : Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:47 pm  
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Unfortunately the idiots tend to be the loudest keyboard warriors. A minority of St Helens fans fall into that category, as do a minority of Wigan fans and every other club for that matter.

Our turn for disappointment will come whether that be next Saturday, next season or some time in the future. When it does there will be a similar thread to this on redvee.


I'm sure there will.. However, I'm pretty sure there won't be a thread on here like the one on Redvee! :lol:
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Re: RedVee.net : Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:25 pm  
It's the self righteousness that's truly breathtaking.
Now to be fair they played some great stuff in the first half of the season but in the second half they've been bang average, lucky for them they had enough points in the bag to claim the LLS.
The way they talk you'd think their first choice 17 was the greatest team ever and they've been cruelly robbed by some great RFL conspiracy.
Personal opinion but that mob would get destroyed by their Sculthorpe era team.
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