Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:12 am  

Personally, I'm not sure I ever saw O'Carroll as being one of our four starting props - unless there were injuries - and I doubt he would have been very happy with playing fifth or sixth.

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:14 am  

Lets not condemn the club until we see the big picture, eh?

Good luck to Eamon, be a shame to see him go, had an awful couple of years. Hope he can tear it up next year.

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:23 am  

Jeff the God of Biscuits wrote:

Lets not condemn the club until we see the big picture, eh?

Good luck to Eamon, be a shame to see him go, had an awful couple of years. Hope he can tear it up next year.

My thoughts exactly. We cant exactly criticise until we know who is replacing him

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:27 am  

Sad to see him leave especially after the club stuck with him for 18months whilst he got fit. I'm not saying he's done anything wrong as I get the feeling the club has made this decision.

As for moving forward our replacement for Coley is pretty much going to be Fielden and it sounds like Dudson and/or Flower will replace O'Carroll which may turn out to be a good move. In terms of replacing Hoffman I think Hock will take that role on so it really leaves us just looking at possible backs. I don't think Joel is up to the centre berth and his try at Wembley proved little so I'd love to sign a centre (aside from Thomas) and if Deacon retires a halfback but available quality in those positions looks to be lacking.

Outside of all that I just hope we make sure we leave Lauaki well alone. I see potential in guys like Dudson and Flower and commercial opportunities in Thomas but I see little to be gained by signing a bone idle, overweight loose cannon.

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:29 am  

Guerrier wrote:

IL has some serious wiggle room with the salary cap to bring some new players in next year.

As i understand it Wigan have no room left on the cap for next season due to the structure of all the long term deals that have been awarded over the last couple of seasons.

I think Wigan's recruitment will be restricted to the three from Crusaders and Lauaki from Hull.

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:31 am  

Paul Youane wrote:

As i understand it Wigan have no room left on the cap for next season due to the structure of all the long term deals that have been awarded over the last couple of seasons.

I think Wigan's recruitment will be restricted to the three from Crusaders and Lauaki from Hull.

4 signings that would beef the forwards up and strengthen a position we're weak in.

If there's nothing left for any further creative players, I'd want Deacs to stay on for another year to ease Mellor or someone into the 7 shirt.

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:34 am  

Guerrier wrote:

4 signings that would beef the forwards up and strengthen a position we're weak in.

If there's nothing left for any further creative players, I'd want Deacs to stay on for another year to ease Mellor or someone into the 7 shirt.

Not sure about beefing the forwards up: losing Coley, Hoffman, Davies and O'Carroll and bringing in Lauaki, Flower and Dudson is a serious down-grading. I don't see any of your current u20s' forwards ready to step-up yet either.

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:40 am  

Paul Youane wrote:

Not sure about beefing the forwards up: losing Coley, Hoffman, Davies and O'Carroll and bringing in Lauaki, Flower and Dudson is a serious down-grading. I don't see any of your current u20s' forwards ready to step-up yet either.

Perhaps beefing isn't the right word then, there's no doubting Hoff and Coley will be difficult to replace based on their form.

But Davies is hardly a fixture in our pack, haven't seen enough of the 20s to comment on them.

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:57 am  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 581485.stm He's aged and lost his hair quick

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 581485.stm He's aged and lost his hair quick

Re: O'Carroll signs for Hull : Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:00 am  

king warrior wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/hull/9581485.stm

He's aged and lost his hair quick

How does an article about O'Carroll become that much about Fitzgibbon?!