Wakefield (h) : Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:58 pm  

Same 21, a chance to redeem themselves https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2023/02/ ... kefield-5/

Same 21, a chance to redeem themselves https://wiganwarriors.com/blog/2023/02/ ... kefield-5/

Re: Wakefield (h) : Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:18 pm  

1. Field
2. French
3. King
4. Wardell
5. Marshall
6. Cust
7. Smith
8. Singleton
9. Powell
10. Ellis
11. Isa
12. Farrell
13. Smithies

14. Cooper
15. Mago
16. KPP
17. O’Neil

Is what I would go with.

Harsh maybe on Havard but we have plenty of options in the middles and he had a poor afternoon in defence on Saturday and a week sat in the stands may reinforce that. Mago coming in just to provide something to change it up in the rotation.

Could argue to drop Powell and Smithies too but I’m not sure we have the ability to replace them as easily.

Isa in to provide the combative toughness that KPP hasn’t yet brought to the field.

Re: Wakefield (h) : Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:21 pm  

Bookies have us 20 point favourites.

Same 17 for me. Maybe with the starting props shuffled. Or perhaps drop one and include Isa.

Re: Wakefield (h) : Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:24 pm  

First few set really need to be completed. Settle in to the game win the arm wrestle then fully turn on the attack

Re: Wakefield (h) : Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:43 pm  

1 to 7 per Saturday

8. Singleton
9. Powell or O’Neil (no particular preference)
10 Byrne
11 Farrell
12 Smithies
13 Ellis

14 Cooper
15 Mago
16 Havard
17 Isa

Against all my inclination to play a prop LF but Smithies isn’t a LF so may as well beef up the pack and shore up the right hand side.
Don’t see the point in having a hooker on the bench as Powell and O’Neil play the same and both can do 80. Personally if available I’d play Forber from the bench.

I made the mistake of watching the HKR again and on the re-run we looked even worse than I thought at the time.
The PTB was slow motion and line speed geriatric compared what you would expect from a play off hopeful.
Coaches got the opener totally and utterly wrong. Sent out an unprepared team and the result rests with them.
Time for the club to stop harping on about the CC win (every Wigan TV interview manages to get that in) and realise it’s 2023 and time has moved on.

Re: Wakefield (h) : Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:54 pm  

I don't see the side changing much from that other than when injuries occur. We'll obviously improve from that and I still wouldn't back many sides to finish above us despite the outcry from some. It's a long season.

Re: Wakefield (h) : Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:57 pm  

Field
French King Wardle Marshall
Cust Smith
Ellis Powell Cooper
Pearce-Paul Farrell Smithies

Subs
Havard Byrne Mago Isa

Re: Wakefield (h) : Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:05 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

I don't see the side changing much from that other than when injuries occur. We'll obviously improve from that and I still wouldn't back many sides to finish above us despite the outcry from some. It's a long season.

I agree with the sentiment however I think it would be good for Peet to send a bit of a message out to his team and "make an example" if you like of 1 or 2, particularly the middles where we are jam packed with competition for places.

We cannot make wholesale changes obviously, to quote Brian Noble, "You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater." but I would like to see him make a bit of a stand around unacceptable performances.

Could pick a number of players out to drop but would need to be one of the Props in reality and for me Havards 75% tackle success rate and low work rate in defence is not up to acceptable standards.

It's tough call as he has the potential to be our best Prop, a little early season kick up the rear may help him get there quicker.

It sounds like it has been a tough week in training with Peet mentioning a number of times there have been some open and honest conversations within the group, so I guess ultimately regardless of what we speculate on here it will be those conversations and the response in training to those conversations and the performance on Saturday behind closed doors that will play the most significant part in finalising his team selection.

Re: Wakefield (h) : Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:30 pm  

jonh wrote:

I agree with the sentiment however I think it would be good for Peet to send a bit of a message out to his team and "make an example" if you like of 1 or 2, particularly the middles where we are jam packed with competition for places.

We cannot make wholesale changes obviously, to quote Brian Noble, "You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater." but I would like to see him make a bit of a stand around unacceptable performances.

Could pick a number of players out to drop but would need to be one of the Props in reality and for me Havards 75% tackle success rate and low work rate in defence is not up to acceptable standards.

It's tough call as he has the potential to be our best Prop, a little early season kick up the rear may help him get there quicker.

It sounds like it has been a tough week in training with Peet mentioning a number of times there have been some open and honest conversations within the group, so I guess ultimately regardless of what we speculate on here it will be those conversations and the response in training to those conversations and the performance on Saturday behind closed doors that will play the most significant part in finalising his team selection.

KPP needs to improve his work rate/ aggression 100%

Re: Wakefield (h) : Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:43 pm  

jonh wrote: Could pick a number of players out to drop but would need to be one of the Props in reality and for me Havards 75% tackle success rate is not up to acceptable standards.. It's a good job that 75% figure isn't right then.. https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3779 Havard - Tackles (TK) 16 - Missed Tackles (MI) 1, which is 6%. Surely you don't actually believe what you post? King supposedly had a good game, but yet he missed 20% of his tackles & of which two led to points against us. Wardle was apparently anonymous, but only missed one and made just 4 metres less than King off half the amount of carries and doubled his average again. Havard missed 6% of his tackles, Ellis missed 12%. Havard made more than double the amount of yards as him too.

jonh wrote: Could pick a number of players out to drop but would need to be one of the Props in reality and for me Havards 75% tackle success rate is not up to acceptable standards.. It's a good job that 75% figure isn't right then.. https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3779 Havard - Tackles (TK) 16 - Missed Tackles (MI) 1, which is 6%. Surely you don't actually believe what you post? King supposedly had a good game, but yet he missed 20% of his tackles & of which two led to points against us. Wardle was apparently anonymous, but only missed one and made just 4 metres less than King off half the amount of carries and doubled his average again. Havard missed 6% of his tackles, Ellis missed 12%. Havard made more than double the amount of yards as him too.