Harry Smith : Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:45 pm  

Can someone tell me what he brings to the team?

I appreciate we are up against it with injuries but I just don’t get what he adds.

His passing game is wildly inaccurate (that’s not just a comment on tonight).

He’s got a good few unforced errors in him.

He doesn’t direct the team.

For every good kick he does, something he was hyped for, he must do 5 poor kicks.

I can’t remember any player in their entire career put as many kicks out on the full, as Smith has in his short career to date.

Makes poor decisions in defence and even when he doesn’t he still struggles because of his lack of physicality.

I know he’s only young but almost all of the above is a basic expectation of a half back. I’m genuinely struggling to think of a worse 7 in SL outside Leigh.

Re: Harry Smith : Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:48 pm  

When we’re only coming away from a game like that with great field position, forwards actually making yards and sort of setting a platform, and numerous repeat sets, it indicates massive issues in the halves which I personally put down to our coaching & the shape we carry.

Re: Harry Smith : Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:48 pm  

jonh wrote:

Can someone tell me what he brings to the team?

I appreciate we are up against it with injuries but I just don’t get what he adds.

His passing game is wildly inaccurate (that’s not just a comment on tonight).

He’s got a good few unforced errors in him.

He doesn’t direct the team.

For every good kick he does, something he was hyped for, he must do 5 poor kicks.

I can’t remember any player in their entire career put as many kicks out on the full, as Smith has in his short career to date.

Makes poor decisions in defence and even when he doesn’t he still struggles because of his lack of physicality.

I know he’s only young but almost all of the above is a basic expectation of a half back. I’m genuinely struggling to think of a worse 7 in SL outside Leigh.

Very inconsistent but he did set up both of our tries tonight.

Re: Harry Smith : Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:58 pm  

Think he's carrying a lot of responsibility for someone who has never yet really proved himself.

The sooner Hastings is back in the halves, the better.

Re: Harry Smith : Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:00 pm  

Maybe it would help him if he was playing alongside Hastings instead of someone who offers zero in attack

Re: Harry Smith : Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:05 pm  

For me the only time hes looked anywhere near ready is when hes been partnered by Hastings,other than that I just dont see what people see in him just yeti used to watch him in the academy and he could kick goals for fun even that seems to have deserted him at present,still young so plenty of time for him I suppose.

Re: Harry Smith : Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:07 pm  

apollosghost wrote:

Maybe it would help him if he was playing alongside Hastings instead of someone who offers zero in attack

That makes 2 of the current halves who offer 0 in attack.

Lam stated players will be “rested” against Leigh. I expect Smith must be one of them.

Even if we had no players back I’d rather run with Hanley at 1 and TL and Hastings in the halves than run with Smith.

Re: Harry Smith : Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:08 pm  

Simply not.good enough

Re: Harry Smith : Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:08 pm  

People forget he’s 21 with limited first team experience. He’s expected to lead us around the park, set up plays, organise attach, kick, kick goals, get players where he wants them. He’s doing that with a ghost alongside him in Tommy. Throw in the pack ineffectiveness and it quickly becomes apparent he is on a hiding to nothing.

He set up both tries for us tonight which IMO were excellent. I’d love to see Smith under a coach like Holbrook.

Don’t throw in the towel on him yet. What we’re expecting him to do is similar to putting a nail in with a blow up hammer.

Re: Harry Smith : Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:09 pm  

jonh wrote:

That makes 2 of the current halves who offer 0 in attack.

Lam stated players will be “rested” against Leigh. I expect Smith must be one of them.

Even if we had no players back I’d rather run with Hanley at 1 and TL and Hastings in the halves than run with Smith.

If we’re resting v Leigh I expect a loss.