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It's time to stop : Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:03 pm  
Kicking the ball dead from 40 - 50 metres and gaining an advantage.

Watching the Quinns v Hull game tonight Quinns about five times just kicked the ball dead when "attacking" from 50 metres.

Hull then had to get all their players behind the 20 metre line, while Quinns only had to get to the 30 metre.

It was a reward for a poor kick "Great tactics according to Stevo" :roll:

IMO it should be an optional restart either from the place the ball was kicked or the 20 metre line.
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rl : Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:06 pm  
Agree Brian. That was boring, boring.
Should be a re-start from where the ball was kicked or maybe the half way line. That would put a stop to it and also kicking on the 5th when only 10 mtrs from the line.
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Re: It's time to stop : Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:09 pm  
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Kicking the ball dead from 40 - 50 metres and gaining an advantage.

Watching the Quinns v Hull game tonight Quinns about five times just kicked the ball dead when "attacking" from 50 metres.

Hull then had to get all their players behind the 20 metre line, while Quinns only had to get to the 30 metre.

It was a reward for a poor kick "Great tactics according to Stevo" :roll:

IMO it should be an optional restart either from the place the ball was kicked or the 20 metre line.


In a way though he's right..as you said yourself Qunnis gained an advantage.

I do agree however with the point your making.
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: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:39 pm  
so the rules are there and a coach shows some initiative by exploiting them and instead of praise, thee are calls for the rules to be changed.
fair play to quins i say. similarly huddersfield have played a certain way this season which has slowed the game down and stopped (most) teams playing their normal game.
maybe it's time for coaches (e.g. agar, noble) to come up with a plan b.
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: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:47 pm  
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so the rules are there and a coach shows some initiative by exploiting them and instead of praise, thee are calls for the rules to be changed.
fair play to quins i say. similarly huddersfield have played a certain way this season which has slowed the game down and stopped (most) teams playing their normal game.
maybe it's time for coaches (e.g. agar, noble) to come up with a plan b.



I agree

If you cant work it out work around it.If your plans and tactics wont work against theres then you need to adapt and over come. like you said plan B.
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: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:48 pm  
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I agree

If you cant work it out work around it.If your plans and tactics wont work against theres then you need to adapt and over come. like you said plan B.


something we sadly dont seem to have :roll:
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: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:49 pm  
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something we sadly dont seem to have :roll:



Exactly :(

It seems adapting to a teams game plan that knocks us off ours is something this team cant do..and i for one dont believe its because of lack of talent.
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: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:55 pm  
But why should negative play be rewarded.

The 40:20 was a great idea as it rewarded a GOOD kick. This is rewarding a poor kick.
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: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:08 pm  
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But why should negative play be rewarded.

The 40:20 was a great idea as it rewarded a GOOD kick. This is rewarding a poor kick.



I understand what your saying

Maybe the rule should be.Instead of the 20 metre tap it should be were the kick happened. unless its kicked less than the 20 metre line..then it can start from there.

But i'm not really against a team using a ruling in there favour to get the advantage.
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: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:43 am  
Why not go the whole hog and introduce Flankers, Line Outs and begin excluding those less privellaged than ourselves and call our game Rugby Union?

That particular rule is fine as it is, IMO. If you're really smart, you'd drop you fullback wayyy back to return the ball. Perhaps on the try line, and have a halfback or a winger just 'bobbying' behind the line, say 10-15 metres to cover a crafty chip.

Clever tactics by McDermott, well executed by Orr and Randall, who in my opinion has the best rugby brain in the league - the manner in which he targeted Thorman and sent runners directly at him, forcing him to make four or five consecutive tackles, then putting in the kick behind him, turning him and that channel around was a breath of fresh air. All too often, I find myself screaming for teams to target a spot player in the opposition.
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