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Re: O’Neill : Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:21 am  
yeah, what the hell would Peet, the club and the coaching team know anyhow....... :roll:
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Re: O’Neill : Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:57 am  
If anyone wants a lesson on how good he is, go and watch the Penrith game again. He went toe to toe with Leota, Fisher-Harris, Kenny and Yeo in that middle and was absolutely unbelievable. I think there's a misconception that he doesn't have a running game but there is a difference between somebody with no running game and somebody playing to a gameplan and being selfless by getting quick ball to the teams biggest attacking threats. When O'Neill runs the ball, his average gain per carry is very good (8.11m) and comfortably above guys like Leeming (6.54) and Litten (7.1m) and similar to guys like Danny Walker (8.22) and Andy Ackers (8.54). All of those are more renowned as being hookers with a running threat. Only guys like Clark and Ipappe sit above 9 metres per carry but that is the main part of their game, unlike Brad O'Neill.
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Re: O’Neill : Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:30 pm  
I'm not daft enough to question his ability, but this one did raise an eyebrow given the injury he is still out with for another 4 months. Its a big contract to give when there must still be an element of doubt about his return
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Re: O’Neill : Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:34 pm  
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What is he good at?

He's done well to be first choice hooker at his age but I don't get comments like this.

For example Leeming scored as many tries last year as O'Neill has in his entire career, can drop into the halves during play and puts on really good kick pressure. I'm not sure what O'Neill is particularly good at.


If you are judging a player by how many tries they score….with all due respect you don’t really have a clue about rugby.
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Re: O’Neill : Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:22 pm  
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Re: O’Neill : Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:39 pm  
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All the little things, with the ball he’s quite simple. He gives the ball to our play makers fast. He is a physical ball carrier when he does run.

In defensive he is ferocious, most hookers are target for ball carriers but not Brad. He leads our line speed, leads our kick chase, puts pressure on kickers, is immense in the ruck, great in the wrestle, he has a great engine.

Kind of player his teams mates love.

Leeming does flashy stuff being fast but sometimes frustrates the halves by going off on his own adventures at times (especially on the last tackle), also not the best defender (but improved later in the year).


Brad is the glue of our team. He’s miles ahead of where Micky Mac was at age 22.

Lucky to have him.


Appreciate the actual response that some people seem incapable of.

I'm suspicious how good a lot of people would think he is if we didn't have French and Field scoring and creating tries for fun.

We had some of that criticism of Harry Smith for a bit.

Also Sam Powell was good at these effort areas, maybe not as good, but I believe he got a lot of stick and people called for more attacking hookers.
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Re: O’Neill : Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:19 pm  
Choc Ice wrote:
Appreciate the actual response that some people seem incapable of.

I'm suspicious how good a lot of people would think he is if we didn't have French and Field scoring and creating tries for fun.

We had some of that criticism of Harry Smith for a bit.

Also Sam Powell was good at these effort areas, maybe not as good, but I believe he got a lot of stick and people called for more attacking hookers.


…but we do have Field and French, so I’m not sure what the point it.

Each player brings their own individual parts to a team effort.

If you don’t see what he brings to the team and what he does to allow Field and French to do what they do then again, I’m guessing you don’t fully appreciate the game fully.

More importantly for O’Neil, we have Smith who does the bulk of the organising which allows O’Neil to get us into the right areas of the pitch to set up the plays and provide a high level damaging effort role in the middle both sides of the ball, which whilst Powell has in style in reality they are not in the same league as O’Neils ability to do this.

I’d actually say Field and French are lucky to have him doing what he does in the middle creating fatigue and slowing down the slide defence which creates space on the edges for the likes of them and others in the team to exploit.

Like I said earlier it’s not all about who puts the ball down over the goal line, just like Leeming who generally comes on once O’Neil has softened up the middles.
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