Re: Warrington (h) : Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:09 am  

I don't think it's a coincidence our 2 worst performances have been the 2 weeks the team hasn't trained on Robin Park because of the gigs.

Re: Warrington (h) : Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:52 am  

Woeful ! Bloody woeful. Our forwards didn't 'fire' . Our backs miss French and Field and their pace, like a desert misses the rain.

Re: Warrington (h) : Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:33 am  

Glad somebody else has mentioned Walters. I have been waiting for him to produce thinking he needed a bit of time but he has been absolutely rancid. No go forward and is a turnstile in defence. Don't know if its his attitude or he is just rubbish but he hasn't produced anything. Byrne I have finally lost patience with. Too many brain farts and errors. Time to cut him loose. Not a massive fan of Keighran (I know he didn't play) and Miski has been poor recently. These lads need to step up and help the young lads out. Yes we need bodies back but there was no excuse for that last night. I expected a defeat but not in that manner. Finally, congratulations to Wire, I thought they were magnificent and Lindop look ls an absolute star in the making. Though no trophies were handed out and we have time yet to turn it around. But we will have to do it without O'Neill. Hope Forber is up to the job, this is his chance to push Leeming

Re: Warrington (h) : Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:19 am  

Cherry_Warrior wrote:

Glad somebody else has mentioned Walters. I have been waiting for him to produce thinking he needed a bit of time but he has been absolutely rancid. No go forward and is a turnstile in defence. Don't know if its his attitude or he is just rubbish but he hasn't produced anything. Byrne I have finally lost patience with. Too many brain farts and errors. Time to cut him loose. Not a massive fan of Keighran (I know he didn't play) and Miski has been poor recently. These lads need to step up and help the young lads out. Yes we need bodies back but there was no excuse for that last night. I expected a defeat but not in that manner. Finally, congratulations to Wire, I thought they were magnificent and Lindop look ls an absolute star in the making. Though no trophies were handed out and we have time yet to turn it around. But we will have to do it without O'Neill. Hope Forber is up to the job, this is his chance to push Leeming

All these signings were made for this year everyone in the RL media was fawning over haven’t really worked out bar Thomson of course.

Keighran - been pretty average

Walters - limited game time but looked really poor (not a backrower?)

Leeming - poor imo, he’ll be a target in defence all season with Brad out.

Eseh and Chan - not looked good on loan at struggling clubs imo.

Obviously new signings need time and sometimes struggle in their first year but I’m glass half empty of last night.

Re: Warrington (h) : Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:26 am  

Firstly Wire look the real deal, good mix of established stars and they are finally giving the youth a go and are reaping the benefits. Yates was immense last night and I’m sure Bateman will add something, could finally be their year?!

On us the only long term issue is the O’Neill potential ACL, he’s in our top 5 most important players and the best 9 in the comp.

Think we need to look rethink the young lads player as they seemed to really hit us down Farrimonds side, Juniors been out of sorts for weeks too and Eckerlsey doesn’t look to have the passing game currently to be a modern day FB.

Not that it would have made a difference last night but this 4 props on the bench thing needs to stop, I know he’s not the best but surely the option of Hampshire on the bench incase of injury is better than 10 mins of Harvie Hill.

Re: Warrington (h) : Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:58 am  

That was downright poor and shows that some of the youngsters are ok when they can be hidden amongst a larger group of experienced players playing well, but when you increase the amount of youth and add it to a mix of underperforming experience, you get a walloping.

Re: Warrington (h) : Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:17 am  

Bad news all round....trying not to go overboard but there are some constant niggles.

Nsemba made his name with strong running out wide for reserves/academy - we don't use him like that in the first team, same is true of Walters to a lesser extent.

Generally playing a power game with the finesse coming from F&F

Some players getting limited game time when they really need long minutes to get fit/find form

Added to a dip in form for some we are in a tricky spot.

One possible positive is that Forber gets chance to show his skills, ironically his style suits playing behind a very strong pack.

Re: Warrington (h) : Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:52 am  

The most frustrating thing about last night was we handed dominance to them on a plate. Too many errors helped put them on top, from there they played well and didn’t give us a sniff.

Just before the first intercept try I felt we were starting to get to grips with the game and building, the intercept try knocked us for 6.

I feel for Smith, it looks as though he’s taken on (or been given) sole responsibility for the attack, he’s trying to force it and coming up with poor plays as a result.

It’s easy to use injuries as an excuse, in reality though Field, French and Leeming off the bench offer us most of our attacking threat. Take Dufty, Williams and Walker out of that Warrington side & we have a very different game.

Re: Warrington (h) : Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:55 am  

Don't think Field/French would've made much difference last night, score might have been a bit more respectable but Wire were really good last night while we're in the inevitable slump after the first half of the season, just need to build now for the play-offs and hope we're reasonably healthy come September.
Don't know where it's come from but on one of the fb pages they were saying Keighran was out for six weeks which is leaving us awfully short in the 3/4ers if true, having said that I'd definitely give Douglas a game next week, Miski who's never been the quickest seems miles off the pace at the moment, he really does look like he's dragging a fridge around with him.

Re: Warrington (h) : Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:12 am  

Think we need to take a step back and in the words of Brian Noble “let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.”

I didn’t see how we won the game last night before kick off. Missed the first 10 minutes so can’t comment on that but with a spine missing 2 key players and lacking a fit bench 9 we are always going to struggle.

I feel for Farrimond I think the worst thing he could have done was make that break and try against London because it’s raised expectations. Fact is he is a kid learning the game and still 2/3 years off first team. Eckersley has papered over the cracks at 1 but he is a centre and it showed last night.

I feel for Josh Walters. We signed him pre revision of the tackle height laws and he’s not now mobile athletic enough to adapt when he signed I was looking forward to see him in the second row but now I feel he needs to play as a prop.

On nights like last night we missed Willie Isa just for his toughness.

If we won last night they may as well have given us the title. We will play Wire again in the final and we will win assuming we have one of our 2 key players back, hopefully both.

My take aways from last night are we need to recruit a secondrow for 25 and we need to manage expectations about the youngsters.

I’m confident we will be fine come October.