Re: Wakefield on Sunday. : Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:42 am  

Although I think Hampshire should play on Sunday (unless Bowen looks more comfortable in training with our systems) I still think Bowen will prove to be an outstanding signing once he settles and I still think he will be in contention for the MOS at the end of the year.

I think though there is little point selecting him at the moment unless he is totally comfortable with out systems as the team is greater than any 1 player, and he clearly is not yet comfortable with our systems, whilst Hampshire is.

There is no great issue for me, it's very simple.

Re: Wakefield on Sunday. : Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:21 pm  

On should Bowen play or not I think he probably should, his stress levels should be less playing against Wakefield so allowing him to concentrate more on his team development. SW has already said he has done well in training and I don’t think he would have thrown him in in the first place if he didn’t believe he was ready. I think the best way for him is to put him in a real game and see how he goes after a few more. The guy has vast experience and if he can’t get with the plan soon then it’s time for plan B, but I think he still may come good.

Re: Wakefield on Sunday. : Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:45 pm  

If you gave me a choice of playing Bowen at home against Wakey or away to Cas I know which I'd choose! If he's low on confidence which seems to be the case, a trip to Cas playing in such alien conditions won't be a walk in the park. I doubt he'll have ever experienced playing somewhere like the Jungle and I could see that going horribly wrong.

I'd be tempted to play him at 1 with Hampshire at 6 on Sunday just to try and get him some confidence.

Re: Wakefield on Sunday. : Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:57 pm  

In my OP I suggested Bowen at 1 with Hampshire on the bench. That, I thought, would give SW a choice should he feel changes are needed during the game.
Bowen hasn't been great at all, however I do think his tackle on SBW last Saturday was telling. Another 6 points at that stage could have meant them getting 50.
The other reason for benching Ryan was that I've not been over impressed with our half backs either. Hampshire would give SW options in that regard too.
At this stage of the season I think the best place for Hampshire is the bench rather than a starting spot where he would be targeted.

Re: Wakefield on Sunday. : Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:01 pm  

My priority between the two would be Hampshire. Bowen can't stand in the way of Hampshires development. If it's right that Hampshire is ready to play then he should.
I don't like the idea of someone who's only here for a season to stand in the way of a future stars development.

I don't want another Tim Smith episode were it took him to break his arm to see Tomkins geta run of games. Even though Bowen is a much better player than Smith, the comparison is there for all to see.

Re: Wakefield on Sunday. : Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:04 pm  

DaveO wrote:

I have also thought of Gene Miles and how he went early on and that is why I won't write him off so quickly.

I think the start of our season has been very disruptive but even so I didn't think he looked a bad player v Hudds.

I am amongst those on here who have memories of the lack of impact that Gene Miles had in the early part of the season he played with Wigan.
So I had a look at Bilko's stats for that season and it really showed how the memory can play tricks years after.
Up to early December of that season Miles only played app 4 games, it was a case of play a match miss 3/4.
From the 15 of Dec he went on to play app 24 matches with him only missing 1 match in that run of 24 matches.

Re: Wakefield on Sunday. : Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:06 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

In my OP I suggested Bowen at 1 with Hampshire on the bench. That, I thought, would give SW a choice should he feel changes are needed during the game.
Bowen hasn't been great at all, however I do think his tackle on SBW last Saturday was telling. Another 6 points at that stage could have meant them getting 50.
The other reason for benching Ryan was that I've not been over impressed with our half backs either. Hampshire would give SW options in that regard too.
At this stage of the season I think the best place for Hampshire is the bench rather than a starting spot where he would be targeted.

Not a bad suggestion FT. Bowen has actually played backup 9 in the past (even at Origin levelif I recall) possibly give the starting 9 a rest, bring on Hampshire, send him to 1 and Bowen to 9.
Otherwise I wouldnt wanna see a subsitute wasted on a fb interchange.

Re: Wakefield on Sunday. : Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:08 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Not a bad suggestion FT. Bowen has actually played backup 9 in the past (even at Origin levelif I recall) possibly give the starting 9 a rest, bring on Hampshire, send him to 1 and Bowen to 9.
Otherwise I wouldnt wanna see a subsitute wasted on a fb interchange.

Sounds like a good idea but I would rather keep Bowen at full back and put Hampshire on as hooker.

I am not keen on making lots of positional changes and hampshires pace at acting half could give a real good attacking option against a tiring Wakey defence.

Re: Wakefield on Sunday. : Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:14 pm  

jonh wrote:

) I still think Bowen will prove to be an outstanding signing once he settles and I still think he will be in contention for the MOS at the end of the year.

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Regards

King James

Re: Wakefield on Sunday. : Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:04 am  

stillinthepast wrote:

I am amongst those on here who have memories of the lack of impact that Gene Miles had in the early part of the season he played with Wigan.
So I had a look at Bilko's stats for that season and it really showed how the memory can play tricks years after.
Up to early December of that season Miles only played app 4 games, it was a case of play a match miss 3/4.
From the 15 of Dec he went on to play app 24 matches with him only missing 1 match in that run of 24 matches.

I remember that - there were a lot of rumours/concerns during the early part of the season whether he would ever play (if I remember rightly it was chronic injury that kept flaring up). I think the play one miss a few was due to him either being pushed/or pushing to play and breaking down and then missing a few.