: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:07 pm  

loyal18 wrote:

IMO we should stand by hock ,yes he made a mistake , but after all hes a wigan lad and a great player , he will learn his lession and im sure he aint the only player to take drugs.

Disgraceful comments condoning a criminal act its illegal to purchase and possess class a drugs against the law hes taken them hes a professional he should know better kids look up to him he should be banned for life.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:08 pm  

XBrettKennyX wrote: Jeez want a spade? You are being made to look a bigger tool than a JCB. Here's what 2 mins googling has produced.............. http://espn.go.com/special/s/drugsandsports/coca.html http://www.teachpe.com/drugs/cocaine.php http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/discussion/drug ... t/1022598/ You sir, are a prat. the first 2 mention its limited (and therefore some) enhancing effects The second is a forum so I wouldnt pay too much attention to that. Lastly, Cocaine is a performance enhancer. It has performance enhancing properties including improvements on recovery from fatigue. Yes it has negative effects but it is still a performance enhancing drug.

XBrettKennyX wrote: Jeez want a spade? You are being made to look a bigger tool than a JCB. Here's what 2 mins googling has produced.............. http://espn.go.com/special/s/drugsandsports/coca.html http://www.teachpe.com/drugs/cocaine.php http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/discussion/drug ... t/1022598/ You sir, are a prat. the first 2 mention its limited (and therefore some) enhancing effects The second is a forum so I wouldnt pay too much attention to that. Lastly, Cocaine is a performance enhancer. It has performance enhancing properties including improvements on recovery from fatigue. Yes it has negative effects but it is still a performance enhancing drug.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:09 pm  

RyanWire wrote:

the first 2 mention its limited (and therefore some) enhancing effects

The second is a forum so I wouldnt pay too much attention to that.

Lastly, Cocaine is a performance enhancer. It has performance enhancing properties including improvements on recovery from fatigue. Yes it has negative effects but it is still a performance enhancing drug.

Straw, clutch, straw.................

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:09 pm  

[quote="XBrettKennyX"]Unless you snort a line at half time, I'm pretty certain the effects are minimal.

If you are going to "cheat" then there are much better performance enhancing drugs than Cocaine.

Ask the 100m runners........[/quote
no one said that there arent better options for cheating. I simply said it was a performance enhancer and it is despite your protestations.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:09 pm  

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:

Disgraceful comments condoning a criminal act its illegal to purchase and possess class a drugs against the law hes taken them hes a professional he should know better kids look up to him he should be banned for life.

Easy tiger! Purchase, possess, that sounds libelous to me.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:09 pm  

RyanWire wrote:

no one said that there arent better options for cheating. I simply said it was a performance enhancer and it is despite your protestations.

By that definition so is coffee, so is food, so is sleep.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:10 pm  

XBrettKennyX wrote:

Straw, clutch, straw.................

its a performance enhancer. Medical journals state this.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:10 pm  

Had kind of a weird feeling when I heard the news earlier, part of me felt really gutted because Hock is one of the few players who I thought actually took pride in the shirt, however now I'm not so sure.

The other feeling was that his name did not come as a surprise because he has always struck me as exactly the kind of idiot who would do stuff like this.

I don't think the club have any option but to terminate his contract, to do otherwise would send out the wrong message to every player within the club and to the game and media as a whole.

As for the rest of the side I have a sneaking suspicion that Hock is not alone in his actions and as advocated earlier would test the lot of em regularly from now until the end of the season.

The club needs to regain its discipline and as such I would go one step further and impose an alcohol ban as well.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:10 pm  

loyal18 wrote:

IMO we should stand by hock ,yes he made a mistake , but after all hes a wigan lad and a great player , he will learn his lession and im sure he aint the only player to take drugs.

He has to prove he will learn a lesson imo to stand any sort of chance of a future here.

He should be made to-

Go on some sort of rehibilitation course

Take regular club tests when/if he does come back

Make some sort of statment apologising to all the people he's let down(granted the lads not a public speaker so let somebody else read it)

Make a promise to keep himself in a good condition so he's ready to make a comeback.

If he can keep to all those aswell as probably a couple more things the club could think of then he should stand a chance of a future within the game at Wigan. I suppose everybody deserves a second chance and if the likes of Feka and Greg Bird can be given them then maybe Hock deserves one aswell(aslong as he sticks to any promises).

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:14 pm  

Maybe there's a career for him in athletics. Dwain chambers thought he could come to rugby league when they banned him.