Bovrick wrote:
I don't have a problem with simple English, but thanks for the nice unprovoked personal attack. You complain about a lack of urgency, which is all fine and well, but as I said what is our alternative? Roberts: we have tried but clearly you expect far too much of anybody new under the age of 22. Mathers: No just, no. Phelps: Again just not going to happen - is he even fit yet? So I did give a fair point which you refuse to answer, something that would be nice for you to clear up for me in your apparent infinite wisdom. And of course the lack of urgency has been commented on, you did it yourself didn't you? But as I pointed out: why complain when there is nothing better, and you have no idea what to say about it. Either offer an opinion or at least act like an adult.
Of course any player can be a work in progress. Most great wingers have at least a decent centre and centre partnership. At the moment he has had neither. Therefore he needs to build something with a bit of chance, and not be universily hated like Calderwood was. Hence, he could either be great for us or yet another failure on the wing, and is therefore a work in progress. And if Ainscough was not on the other wing he would not be critisised as much, which I am sure would have dissapointed you
Ainscough however, appears to be a bit of saving grace so far this year. He is outstanding.
As for replacing Roberts, your options are Phelps, Goulding and Pryce???
Phelps has played 1, maybe two at a stretch, good game(s) for us, repeatedly gets knocked out, is worse in defence and has been injured recently. Goulding for starters, is a centre. He is also almost universally hated here and by Noble, which I do not agree with, and I do think he should be playing, but not as Roberts replacement and I sure hope you did not mean that
. Pryce, as we all know, is not fit enough yet, and is very slow. Would he have scored the intercept Roberts did? No. Maybe he would have made up forit somewhere else, but unless he has changed massively over the last 3(?) weeks, then he is not ready yet, not by a long shot...
wow personal insults affect me way too much, but arrogant ****s get me so wound up
Of course any player can be a work in progress. Most great wingers have at least a decent centre and centre partnership. At the moment he has had neither. Therefore he needs to build something with a bit of chance, and not be universily hated like Calderwood was. Hence, he could either be great for us or yet another failure on the wing, and is therefore a work in progress. And if Ainscough was not on the other wing he would not be critisised as much, which I am sure would have dissapointed you
Ainscough however, appears to be a bit of saving grace so far this year. He is outstanding.
As for replacing Roberts, your options are Phelps, Goulding and Pryce???
Phelps has played 1, maybe two at a stretch, good game(s) for us, repeatedly gets knocked out, is worse in defence and has been injured recently. Goulding for starters, is a centre. He is also almost universally hated here and by Noble, which I do not agree with, and I do think he should be playing, but not as Roberts replacement and I sure hope you did not mean that
. Pryce, as we all know, is not fit enough yet, and is very slow. Would he have scored the intercept Roberts did? No. Maybe he would have made up forit somewhere else, but unless he has changed massively over the last 3(?) weeks, then he is not ready yet, not by a long shot...wow personal insults affect me way too much, but arrogant ****s get me so wound up
Well pal you've lost me with the first bold bit and hardly claimed the moral high ground with the second!
The reason for my question re you and our language is because you misinterpreted my post. Now, you either can't follow what I posted or, like many on here, twist others' posts to suit yourself. If - and I merely state if - you are as hard of thinking as you appear I'll take you through it all again if you like in as much detail as you can absorb.
Here goes...
I personally thought Pat was too laid back in his performance and said so. This isn't me asking for him to be replaced, OK so far? Good.
Since you happened to mention replacements I stated that I was unhappy with Roberts and put you right on the fact that he isn't a work in progress but was signed as a seasoned pro who would drop right in with the minimum of fuss. IMO (and that's what a forum like this is for) he has been disappointing and playing way below his NRL form.
The point you make about needing a good centre is valid but doesn't totally exonerate him. It doesn't explain his hopelessness under the high ball (he cost us the Hull game and bombed another against Leeds). Also has everything achieved by Ainscough been handed to him on a plate by his centre? Of course not.
Finally, I accept the point re Pryce's lack of fitness but feel he must have improved - a feeling based somewhat on comments posted by those who watch the reserves - and is pushing hard for a start. Plus he would have scored the interception.
HTH.
