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Re: hock tested. : Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:58 am  
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Since Hock was first suspended I make it that we've played 18 competitive games, of which we have won 14 and lost 4.

I'm not meaning to say necessarily that we are a stronger team without him, but right now I would see no place for him in the side.


take your points mate but I think hock would be devastating in this team and it's ashame he f@cked up the way he did I think our style of rugby now would be awsome with him init
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Re: hock tested. : Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:11 pm  
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Down the gym huge by the looks of it...Although he was about to have a big carvery!


Hope he wasn't with Terry Newton...
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Re: hock tested. : Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:21 pm  
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Since Hock was first suspended I make it that we've played 18 competitive games, of which we have won 14 and lost 4.

I'm not meaning to say necessarily that we are a stronger team without him, but right now I would see no place for him in the side.



Yes, but we won away at Wire and people wanted to 'change' the team, we won 58-0 and people want to 'change' the team, injuries, suspensions, drop in form, all these mean that there will be room in the squad for players, especially ones as talented (in rugby terms) as Hock.
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Re: hock tested. : Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:22 pm  
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Hope he wasn't with Terry Newton...


Terry was sat on a table outside, his shoulders were too big to fit through the door.
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Re: hock tested. : Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:23 pm  
Assuming he's not lost any of his formidable natural talents i think Hock would walk into the current Wigan team.

I’d take him at prop over Prescott and O’carrol and I’d also take him at the moment over Feka.

At 2nd row he’d walk in over Bailey as well and I’d love to see him start on the bench and give us some impact as it’s the only real area for concern at the moment imo.

Let’s not forget just how good of a player Hock is! He’s a game changer and one of the best 2nd row forwards in the World
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Re: hock tested. : Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:35 pm  
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Assuming he's not lost any of his formidable natural talents i think Hock would walk into the current Wigan team.

I’d take him at prop over Prescott and O’carrol and I’d also take him at the moment over Feka.

At 2nd row he’d walk in over Bailey as well and I’d love to see him start on the bench and give us some impact as it’s the only real area for concern at the moment imo.

Let’s not forget just how good of a player Hock is! He’s a game changer and one of the best 2nd row forwards in the World


Given what Maguire has managed to do with the likes of Joel and Hansen, it would be fascinating to see what he could do with natural like Hock.

Unfortunatey, he can't start doing anything until Hock's ban is served, so it could be quite a while before we see something special.
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Re: hock tested. : Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:37 pm  
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Let’s not forget just how good of a player Hock is! He’s a game changer and one of the best 2nd row forwards in the World


Was..........2 years is a looong time to be out of the game
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Re: hock tested. : Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:48 pm  
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Was..........2 years is a looong time to be out of the game


Lol there is nothing better than a pessimistic Wigan fan.

Two years isn’t that long out of the game for a 26 year old who is still keeping himself in condition.

Like another poster said a pro can get back into condition after about 10 weeks of hard graft and this will be drastically reduced if he’s already been doing some work anyway. I fully expect Hock to step up his training when he’s almost ready to return.

Hock, if started on the bench, will easily be able to handle the speed of SL as his game has never been based around a high work rate like that of a Bailey or Hansen but Hock’s game is based around brute strength and banging out of tackles.

Like I said Hock is only gonna be 27/28 and I can’t see him losing many of the talents which made him one of the best 2nd rows in the world.
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Re: hock tested. : Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:52 pm  
When Hock was playing, Wigan were so predictable that the opposition knew when he was recieving the ball and therefore gang-tackled him, sometimes causing him to lose the ball.
If he stepped into the present system of dummy runners and good ball movement he would be sensational. Just hope he has reformed.
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Re: hock tested. : Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:56 pm  
I think he will play for wigan again.I also hope he does
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