[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:42 am  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

As if further proof were needed. I take no interest whatsoever in your posts, merely recognise the somewhat dubious content.

How to prove yourself wrong in one sentence. You take no interest whatsoever yet recognise them.

jinkin jimmy wrote:

FWIW I accept we may well see these 2 contest the final. In some ways I hope we do, because watching them perform against other teams in unlikely to be as entertaining as watching them pummell each other. Will you accept that we may well have already seen the best game of the comp and it was played in a part of the country with virtually no interest in the sport as far as the indigenous population is concerned?

Probably not, so goodbye.

Seeing as the Aus v NZ game got a better attendance than the "indigenous" team did the night before, looks like it was right to play it in London.

: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:03 pm  

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

How to prove yourself wrong in one sentence. You take no interest whatsoever yet recognise them.



Seeing as the Aus v NZ game got a better attendance than the "indigenous" team did the night before, looks like it was right to play it in London.

Hmm. The 2 best teams in the world generate a bigger crowd shock.How many of the superior (by 800 odd) attendance are likely to get involved in British RL as regular spectators of the game at club level? How has playing that game in London benefitted the core support of the sport?

If you believe it was the right decision purely because they got 800 more fans than turned up at Doncaster you are a fool.

Have the last word. The debate is over pal.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:58 pm  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

Hmm. The 2 best teams in the world generate a bigger crowd shock.How many of the superior (by 800 odd) attendance are likely to get involved in British RL as regular spectators of the game at club level? How has playing that game in London benefitted the core support of the sport?

If you believe it was the right decision purely because they got 800 more fans than turned up at Doncaster you are a fool.

Have the last word. The debate is over pal.

Surely this fantastic, indigenous, diehard, core support would have supported their own team by more than the 800 fans? Or maybe not.

The debate was over long ago because the facts show you've been talking bollox.

: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:03 pm  

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

Surely this fantastic, indigenous, diehard, core support would have supported their own team by more than the 800 fans? Or maybe not.

The debate was over long ago because the facts show you've been talking bollox.

You moron. How can you talk about core support and quote figures for an attendance in Doncaster FFS?

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:17 pm  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

You moron. How can you talk about core support and quote figures for an attendance in Doncaster FFS?

And just to prove my insular point. I know they've got an airport, but you don't need to get on a plane to get to Donny you know, not even from Wigan.

Dear me - having to resort to name calling. Tut tut. A sure sign you've lost the argument, although you never really had one in the first place.

: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:30 pm  

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

:lol:

And just to prove my insular point. I know they've got an airport, but you don't need to get on a plane to get to Donny you know, not even from Wigan.

Dear me - having to resort to name calling. Tut tut. A sure sign you've lost the argument, although you never really had one in the first place.

And you saying I talk bolllox was real highbrow stuff too. Anyway, nice way to avoid the question. I repeat, how can you talk about core support for a game played in Doncaster? I also asked "How many of the superior (by 800 odd) attendance are likely to get involved in British RL as regular spectators of the game at club level?" and "How has playing that game in London benefitted the core support of the sport?". Still thinking about it, are you?

My point was that I disagreed with taking the best game of the comp down south. You seem to think it was justified because 800 more turned up than in Doncaster to watch a no contest game, an argument I find baffling.

If I'm wrong, please explain why.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:45 pm  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

And you saying I talk bolllox was real highbrow stuff too. Anyway, nice way to avoid the question. I repeat, how can you talk about core support for a game played in Doncaster? I also asked "How many of the superior (by 800 odd) attendance are likely to get involved in British RL as regular spectators of the game at club level?" and "How has playing that game in London benefitted the core support of the sport?". Still thinking about it, are you?

My point was that I disagreed with taking the best game of the comp down south. You seem to think it was justified because 800 more turned up than in Doncaster to watch a no contest game, an argument I find baffling.

If I'm wrong, please explain why.

So you were the only one who had to resort to name calling them - thanks for clearing that up.

There's no question to avoid in the first place as you argument as proved by your Donny might as be at the other side of the world stance is basically if it isn't on my doorstep it's a disgrace, etc, etc. Since when did the first game in a tournament become a no contest game by the way?

The core support is being "benefited" enough with the number of games it is getting, including the final.

However the core support has shown its true colours by being unable to get off its backside and fill a 25,000 stadium for the biggest game of the tournament for the "indigenous" team.

: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:02 pm  

saints35 bulls0 wrote:

quick question - what time do pubs open in town?

got to collect tickets from the ticket office from 10am, rather get that out of the way early on and have a few beers rather than standing in a queue at 5 past 2.

Think/hope the Moon will be open from 9ish(?) as we're getting in Wigan for half 10, Walkabout opens at 12 for Aussie baiting.

: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:09 pm  

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

So you were the only one who had to resort to name calling them - thanks for clearing that up.

I didn't have to, but chose to. Now that is cleared up. If you view that as a moral victory, congratulations.

There's no question to avoid in the first place as you argument as proved by your Donny might as be at the other side of the world stance is basically if it isn't on my doorstep it's a disgrace, etc, etc. Since when did the first game in a tournament become a no contest game by the way?

These are not my words. Kindly do not attribute them to me. However, you are still avoiding the point. What were the reasons or benefits in taking that game to London? I have repeatedly told you why I disagreed. If you are sticking with your contention that the fact that 800 ish more people turned up, so be it.

The core support is being "benefited" enough with the number of games it is getting, including the final.

Fair enough. Everyone's entiltled to an opinion. At least you have now answered!

However the core support has shown its true colours by being unable to get off its backside and fill a 25,000 stadium for the biggest game of the tournament for the "indigenous" team.

You are pre-judging here. Plus, if only 22,000 turn up at Wigan, is this justification for playing Aus v Kiwi in London in front of less than 13K, hardly any of whom are actual supporters of British RL? Maybe for you, but not for me.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:30 pm  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

I didn't have to, but chose to. Now that is cleared up. If you view that as a moral victory, congratulations.

No need for me to claim a moral victory, I didn't have to resort to name calling because my argument was so weak in the first place.

jinkin jimmy wrote:

These are not my words. Kindly do not attribute them to me. However, you are still avoiding the point. What were the reasons or benefits in taking that game to London? I have repeatedly told you why I disagreed. If you are sticking with your contention that the fact that 800 ish more people turned up, so be it.

What was it you said about Donny:

How can you talk about core support and quote figures for an attendance in Doncaster FFS

Last time I looked it was just as easy to get to Donny from Leeds as it is to get to Huddersfield. It's also closer to say Hull. Hardly the other side of the world, yet you seem to think it should affect the core support.

I've already pointed out numerous times why I didn't see a problem with the game being in London, the fact you haven't read them or choose to ignore them is your issue not mine. Start at my first post and take it from there.

jinkin jimmy wrote:

Fair enough. Everyone's entiltled to an opinion. At least you have now answered!

You are pre-judging here. Plus, if only 22,000 turn up at Wigan, is this justification for playing Aus v Kiwi in London in front of less than 13K, hardly any of whom are actual supporters of British RL? Maybe for you, but not for me.

Isn't the whole point of a 4 Nations tournament for the benefit of international RL supporters as a whole and not just British RL supporters.

Playing Aus v NZ in a place where their supporters are based - shocking isn't it?