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Re: Ben Davies to Widnes? : Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:30 am  
Good deal for us and Ben and Widnes.
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Re: Ben Davies to Widnes? : Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:16 am  
We owe Leigh and Millward absolutely nothing.

We've already helped them financially with two pre-season games at their place and we halped them out a couple of years ago with Bryn Hargreaves and Paul Prescott. I think he has alot of cheek poking his nose in on behalf of Leigh to come out with that quote.

Anyway, I wouldn't feel comfortable with any of our youngsters being under Millwards wing.
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Re: Ben Davies to Widnes? : Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:42 am  
Maybe the history betwween Millward and Wigan was a factor in Davies moving to Widnes instead? Cullen does waffle,but I think the lad will learn more from him than he would have done from Millward.
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Re: Ben Davies to Widnes? : Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:37 am  
To be honest I am not bothered which club he went to, both those coaches are in my opinion SL standard coaches who made some errors in there time towards the end of there tenure in Sl and both will be better coaches for making those errors.

Millward did a great job at every club except Wigan, and in hindsight, it was never going to work with him at Wigan, too much history.

Cullen may waffle on a bit but again he has proven himself to be a good coach, again in my opinion his only major failing looking from the outside in was that he became too close with a core section of his players and the working relationship with the group faltered.

I think both will be back in SL one day.

Regards who i would like Davies to work under it would have to be Millward, he has a habit of adding to Props games, look at the way Anderson, Mary and Fozzard flourished under him.

I am confident though, with the full facts at there disposal the club will make the right call in sending him to whichever club they choose.
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Re: Ben Davies to Widnes? : Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:19 am  
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To be honest I am not bothered which club he went to, both those coaches are in my opinion SL standard coaches who made some errors in there time towards the end of there tenure in Sl and both will be better coaches for making those errors.

Millward did a great job at every club except Wigan, and in hindsight, it was never going to work with him at Wigan, too much history.

Cullen may waffle on a bit but again he has proven himself to be a good coach, again in my opinion his only major failing looking from the outside in was that he became too close with a core section of his players and the working relationship with the group faltered.

I think both will be back in SL one day.

Regards who i would like Davies to work under it would have to be Millward, he has a habit of adding to Props games, look at the way Anderson, Mary and Fozzard flourished under him.

I am confident though, with the full facts at there disposal the club will make the right call in sending him to whichever club they choose.

To some degree I agree but at Widnes he'll be playing with a much higher standard of player. That can only improve his game.
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Re: Ben Davies to Widnes? : Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:41 am  
Even ignoring the Millward factor, it's a no-brainer for the player to go to Widnes rather than Leigh, who are effectively a NL2 side.
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Re: Ben Davies to Widnes? : Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:08 am  
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To some degree I agree but at Widnes he'll be playing with a much higher standard of player. That can only improve his game.



But personally i would like my lads to go on loan and really see and feel the hardship, especially a Prop. I think it would be more beneficial for him to really have to fight in every game rather than have a couple of difficult games followed by a few games that are no contests.
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Re: Ben Davies to Widnes? : Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:18 am  
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We owe Leigh and Millward absolutely nothing.

We've already helped them financially with two pre-season games at their place and we halped them out a couple of years ago with Bryn Hargreaves and Paul Prescott. I think he has alot of cheek poking his nose in on behalf of Leigh to come out with that quote.

Anyway, I wouldn't feel comfortable with any of our youngsters being under Millwards wing.


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Re: Ben Davies to Widnes? : Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:02 pm  
Has hehad any first team game time or has anyone see him play?

Incidently Stuart Wilkinson is a senior coach at Widnes and has a great track record in player development from his Leeds days.
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