: Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:33 pm  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

if i was Mark Evans i'd give an answer

You managed to step into his shoes and say that those in charge of running Rugby Union hate Rugby League, so whats stopping you now?

The fact that you have no idea what you are talking about, perhaps?

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:35 pm  

The Lambeth Quin wrote:

Why is it that the just the club shouldn't allow things to drift on? Maybe, just maybe we as supporters also have a vested interest in Quins RL future.

Or are we just all happy to tap our keyboards and hope that someone will galvinise suporter apathy into action??

Seconded

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:48 pm  

There are some who believe Quins RL means quins rugby lessons delivered by the union section and not rugby league. This in term leads to "poor" marketing within the community since "everybody knows at RU". I remember my first trip to Catalans and they (Cats) marketed our team as London Harlequins. Maybe there is a lot in a name which for some reason or another is lost in translation and works against us

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:53 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

You managed to step into his shoes and say that those in charge of running Rugby Union hate Rugby League, so whats stopping you now?

The fact that you have no idea what you are talking about, perhaps?

yet you are a professor of rugby?

and im sure Bernard Lapasset wouldn't shed a tear if we disappeared into obscurity

Anyway i've been drawn into a slanging match so i'll withdraw myself from it now

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:05 pm  

The Lambeth Quin wrote:

My understanding is that Ian Lenegen still has his 60% shareholding in Quins RL, but under the agreement with the RFL to buy Wigan Warriors he has to "dispose" of his Quins shareholding by end of October 2009.

I guess it could be a worry to find an investor to buy 60% of a club, but with such a low turnover and huge losses I guess it is hardly worth a bean

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:07 pm  

Chris Brown wrote:

I guess it could be a worry to find an investor to buy 60% of a club, but with such a low turnover and huge losses I guess it is hardly worth a bean

I'm told it's costing him around 600k a year for the privilage. That around £1650 per day.

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:20 pm  

Chris Brown wrote:

I guess it could be a worry to find an investor to buy 60% of a club, but with such a low turnover and huge losses I guess it is hardly worth a bean

£10 from me...

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:45 pm  

af wrote:

You haven't got a name. Your avatar, Quins RL, AFAIK, was dropped. 'Harlequins Rugby League' was its replacement. This is so long that it is totally unusable, so it didn't get used by the press. 'Quins' did instead. Except Quins is well known to be the name of an existing rugby team. And so we have a sports team without a name of its own. And I am still scratching my head as to why so many interested and thoughtful posters can't see the issue here.

It's not the only problem but it is a big problem and it needs sorting.

The name was always “Harlequins Rugby League”, it was just that the “Rugby League” was abbreviated to RL on the logo, that was changed because people didn’t make the connection between RL and rugby league.

The thing a lot of people miss is that rugby union doesn’t even have that great a profile in London (excluding the people who become supporters during the six nations, but think a garryowen is a bloke who used to play for Man City rather than a crap kick someone does when they’ve run out of ideas). Quins RU have done a fantastic job building what they have, but they are the only top flight RU club actually in Greater London, and they’ve built their success on a mix of genuine RU fans who go for the game and social fans for whom it's less about the gane and more a part of a certain tupe of affluent West London socio-economic social scene. Quins RL are always going to struggle to replicate that.

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:57 pm  

Kelvin's Ferret wrote:

The name was always “Harlequins Rugby League”, it was just that the “Rugby League” was abbreviated to RL on the logo, that was changed because people didn’t make the connection between RL and rugby league.

Fair enough. But 'Harlequins Rugby League' is not what the club are popularly called. It's too long. Everyone here calls them Quins, because they know who they're talking about. But what about the mildly interested outsider? You expect them to trot through all six syllables?

I'll say it again, I can't believe that more people don't see what a fundamental problem for the club this is.

: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:27 pm  

af wrote:

Fair enough. But 'Harlequins Rugby League' is not what the club are popularly called. It's too long. Everyone here calls them Quins, because they know who they're talking about. But what about the mildly interested outsider? You expect them to trot through all six syllables?

I'll say it again, I can't believe that more people don't see what a fundamental problem for the club this is.

Wakefield Trinity Wildcats
Manchester United

Seems only you see it as a problem, whereas in reality it isn't.

Would you suggest they change their names to Wakey and Man Utd?