Re: Fans consultation : Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:08 am  

wire-quin wrote:

the views of the 4800 fans who have disappeared since the Stoop

Too late I am afraid. If they're walked, then they're lost to us as supporters until the ownership and therefore the ability to have a cohesive plan for the club changes.

I am sick (but I will never tire of) telling people that the problem is David Hughes. He, without a shadow of a doubt, means well, but he has butchered the club we all supported for decades to the extent that the source of much of the clubs fans recent ire, Monkey Boy, is now asking to meet with people to find out why they are so vexed off with the club.

Hughes needs to:
declare how long he intends to stay for
declare the level of investment he is willing to commit to
step back and employ an RFL vetted and appointed General Manager to oversee the back office running of the club
Continue as Chairman, by all means, but let people with talent and ability make the decisions....

My fear is that we are Part Time inside 2 years and gone inside 5.....it's a crying shame and it was 100% preventable!

Re: Fans consultation : Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:14 am  

You don't know who has been invited, what the purpose is so how can you comment

No I dont know who has been invited which is the reason I asked the question had any of the dont come back brigade been invited

Have you ever been to a Broncos fans forum when everyone is invited. It's chaos and embarrassing.

In 25 years as a season ticket holder yes went to all the forums and thought nothing was really ever gained from them but went just in case @this one may be different@

Re: Fans consultation : Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:58 pm  

itsmeagain wrote:

In 25 years as a season ticket holder yes went to all the forums and thought nothing was really ever gained from them but went just in case @this one may be different@

I remember asking big Mac at a forum in the cabbage patch about 2008 where he thought we'd finish...he said 1st.....i said no, really where do you see us this season and he stared at me and said first.....we finished 11th IIRC.....point being Hughes would have believed Mac.....nobody else with an ounce of common sense would have, but Hughes would have.
These gatherings only work if information is shared and acted upon....I getnthr impression that lobster and monkey don't take "direction" well

Re: Fans consultation : Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:12 pm  

DH needs to show that while he may own the club, it will have a life beyond his tenure.

He owes it to the fans (some of whom pre-date his ownership) to communicate plans that enable the club to be more sustainable year on year (rather than less as it currently seems to be).

Re: Fans consultation : Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:59 am  

It may interest people to know that a couple of sports sources have now told me Monkey is consulting with at least some people experienced in turning clubs around about his plans for 2022. It appears that the fiasco of 2021 has persuaded him that perhaps others may know a bit more than him. If so, credit to him for waking up. Here's hoping he'll listen and it's not token. Shame about the damage already inflicted by the 2021'plans though.

WQ my question. Are the club aware that 25% of the Scottish Premier League is supporter owned? Those clubs receive substantial income from Trust members making monthly donations to the Trust which then part fund the club, alongside the club's commercial revenues.

One of those clubs, Hearts, is way bigger than Broncos ever will be but two, St Mirren and Motherwell, are not much bigger than Broncos once were.

It's a given this method of funding is not currently available to Broncos given they have devastated their own support base. However: -

Do they regret not working with LBSA to establish such a scheme when it may have been vtable, with David keeping control but LBSA getting equity in return for substantial funding.

If the support base recovers, and LBSA are interested, will the club investigate this funding model in the future?

Re: Fans consultation : Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:40 am  

Halfdan of t'wide embrace wrote:

It may interest people to know that a couple of sports sources have now told me Monkey is consulting with at least some people experienced in turning clubs around about his plans for 2022. It appears that the fiasco of 2021 has persuaded him that perhaps others may know a bit more than him.

In short...he farked up and is only now considering he may be out of his depth...he doesn't deserve credit....he deserves his cards

Re: Fans consultation : Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:08 am  

Halfdan of t'wide embrace wrote:

WQ my question. Are the club aware that 25% of the Scottish Premier League is supporter owned? Those clubs receive substantial income from Trust members making monthly donations to the Trust which then part fund the club, alongside the club's commercial revenues.

One of those clubs, Hearts, is way bigger than Broncos ever will be but two, St Mirren and Motherwell, are not much bigger than Broncos once were.

Of course, LB will be able to look at how the new landlords work with the supporters trust or other local clubs like Hampton and Richmond Borough FC which seem much better run than LB.

Re: Fans consultation : Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:29 am  

There's also a senior bod from Dulwich Hamlet, from memory currently 29.9% Supporter Trust owned and with a written agreement to transfer to majority supporter owned, known to the club.

I chose the Scottish club model as we keep being told/hinted at David wants to cut his funding and cannot source other investors. The club seemingly set up BOSG to try and increase money from supporters coming into the club. Yet two clubs of similar size to where Broncos used to be are banking tens of thousands a month between them by working with their Supporters Trust instead of against them.

Edited to add some facts.

Hearts - as of last month the Trust, currently around 8000 strong, had raised £12,343,698. Clearly Hearts are far bigger than Broncos ever will be.

St Mirren - the Trust has three membership levels with most paying the middle £15 a month with 1.2k or so members meaning probably £15-20k per month.

Motherwell - a while ago I'm sure I read their Trust was pulling in £30k or so a month.

Re: Fans consultation : Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:02 am  

Yes there is a guy heavily involved with Dulwich Hamlet, who follows the club. I believe he is a player sponsor.
Without doubt there is a lot that the club could learn from Dulwich. Such as the way it connects with its local community and respects its fans.

Re: Fans consultation : Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:10 am  

Halfdan of t'wide embrace wrote:

I chose the Scottish club model as we keep being told/hinted at David wants to cut his funding and cannot source other investors.

Finding other investors has no doubt become increasingly difficult as DH neglected growing or even maintaining the fan base.