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Re: Promotion cost... : Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:35 pm  
Or maybe start a thread asking the question, could london get promoted with a team made up of 70% academy players
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Re: Promotion cost... : Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:43 pm  
So WQ what do you think it would cost for any team to get promotion, and more important stay in SL
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Re: Promotion cost... : Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:54 pm  
It would be difficult for London to get promoted with 70% of players from the Academy. This is because once they get experience and start to perform to a high standard.
Northern teams come and sign them up. We have to start again.
To stay in SL you just have to be finish one place above another team. The thing is that the dice is loaded against the promoted team. No coincidence there.
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Re: Promotion cost... : Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:58 pm  
Think our last season in SL displayed a leveling off with the amount of points we finished with. Interested to see how leigh go this season with reduced funding
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Re: Promotion cost... : Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:27 am  
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It would be difficult for London to get promoted with 70% of players from the Academy
Northern teams come and sign them up.


There was even a claim recently from some clubs in The North, even if London RL disappeared, we would still get the same talented young players from the South, one word came to mind Deluded!
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Re: Promotion cost... : Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:50 am  
Jaybs, you are so right. With the lack of resources that are committed to developing the sport by the RFL. How are these Northern clubs going to identify this talent, without London Broncos or Skolars doing the ground work.
Further, they would need to come away from their insular world to find them.
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Re: Promotion cost... : Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:38 am  
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Jaybs, you are so right. With the lack of resources that are committed to developing the sport by the RFL. How are these Northern clubs going to identify this talent, without London Broncos or Skolars doing the ground work.
Further, they would need to come away from their insular world to find them.


How do you think I feel being born in St Helens, and still living in the Metropolitan area, it summed it up for me when the Saints club had a ballot for the statue at the new ground, and the majority vote was for Cunningham? what a joke! like the name of the stadium or more ground! 90% did not have a clue who the like of Tom Van Vollenhoven was! as a youngster I read about the history of the club! now there is a statue of someone they sacked?
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Re: Promotion cost... : Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:12 pm  
Jaybs, oddly we are going to agree on something. With you re that statue! But as it was a fans vote, they werr only ever going to vote for players they have watched. 2 very different players you mention, no doubt a talented player but i never liked cunningham, Tom would have been more deserving of a statue.
How did he come to play RL though?
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Re: Promotion cost... : Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:00 pm  
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Jaybs, oddly we are going to agree on something. With you re that statue! But as it was a fans vote, they werr only ever going to vote for players they have watched. 2 very different players you mention, no doubt a talented player but i never liked cunningham, Tom would have been more deserving of a statue.
How did he come to play RL though?


It was interesting two years before Tom joined St Helens in 1955 both Wigan & the Saints were in a real what became known in books as a 'cloak & dagger operation' to sign him, my brother was 11 years older than me, so he told me a lot about him, he worked? on a large record shop in St Helens town centre, it was said he was a real gentleman, I was at the1961 Challenge Cup Final but in the arms of my Dad, as all the family went on that hot day!

Cunningham was the golden boy, knowing what went on a lot at St Helens over the years, I never trusted the vote, was it chosen in advance? it should never have included current players, in my opinion.

Both sport & politics people are rarely going to ever agree fully, that is life! one time it worried me when I was younger, but no longer lol
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Re: Promotion cost... : Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:02 pm  
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WQ you choose to read selectivly. What i said was.
Quote: i dont think!
That is an opinion not a statement of fact. The bloke has retired from his business that he ran previously. From that most folk would probably summise that his personal wealth figure has likely changed.
Agree that we have no clue who might be interested in taking the mantle, but if you look at recent history, last time DH stepped back, the club were within days of disapearing with no new owner jumping in to take the helm! In the current world i cannot see many folk who would be in a position to jump into spending millions each year for no return.


I'd be quietly confident that DH will have multiple income streams, even in retirement. He's been setting his money on fire for decades, he's got plenty of it I'm sure.
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