: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:28 pm  

Dorn is an opportunist, I would rather have a grafter like Mbu in the side

Wow even by your standards Listy this is a bizarre one

Im assuming you like grafters as players rather than opportunists but surely your not advocating Jo as a direct replacement for Luke

Is there a No 6 playing today who you would call a grafter.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:51 pm  

brian2 wrote:

i realise this will feed your paanoia/chip on shoulder and also your arrogance that only you know anything about the game, that is without doubt the stupidist post i have ever read and you need to go get some serious medication and lie down for a few years.

dorn is a try scorer and has scored tries at every club he has played for and will continue to do so, and tries win matches because, and you may not quite have grasped this, you get points for each and every one and as long as you get more points than the other team you win the match. Note the Castleford match (and before you point it out i know we won on goal kicks, but Hill would not have scored those two tries............... I accept he might have scored three others or made three but...........)

And to be clear:

Scott Hill - was a great player. I loved watching him and he was not just a money grabber. Dorn isnt hill and nor was Hill Dorn and never was. They both bring things to the party but they are different things

Joe Mbu - is a really good, solid, dependable club man who i also enjoy watching. I was sad when he left and glad when he came back. some of his performances last year where outstanding and i am always pleased to see him in the team, but he is not dorn and Dorn not he, they do very different jobs and one cannot replace the other.

Finally i am not out to bash you/trash you or anything else. The post was rubbish and i have a spare 5 minutes and i just wanted to share with you. If you said it as a joke or at an attempt at irony, you failed to amuse me.

Fair shout, I got that one totally wrong I admit.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:51 pm  

sogspurs wrote:

Who has a vendetta with Mbu??

No-one is criticising him at all, I, and a couple of others have defended Luke Dorn and no-one has said a single bad word about Joe Mbu!

Joe is a great player, and he will work hard every minute he is on the pitch.

Every time I bring up Mbu, someone tells me Dorn should be playing instead, its a joke.

: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:10 pm  

Dave Lister wrote:

Every time I bring up Mbu, someone tells me Dorn should be playing instead, its a joke.

Still doesn't seem like a vendetta, if it appears that way to you, I think you are mixing up the Pro-Dorn camp with the non-existent Anti-Mbu camp.

I do think Joe is quite under rated, and over looked when everyone is mentioning our London talent, everyone straight away names LMS and Tony Clubb, but in the media especially he is overlooked as coming up from the Skolars.

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:59 am  

Honestly, if dorn was not in the side, and gale was, i'd be happy, imo, had a good game against manly when on the pitch.

[brian2]

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:42 am  

Fair shout, I got that one totally wrong I admit.

Thanks.


I wondered if Mbu was in because of fitness doubts over Purdham, rather than golden? but may be reading too much in to it. Gale kicked a great goal against Manly so i assume he offers kicking cover?

Lets just hope we win!!!!!!

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:44 am  

I have no vendetta against Mbu I think generally he goes OK. I just believe out of that squad there will be no place for him.

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:30 am  

Dave Lister wrote:

Why have people on here got such a vendetta towards Joe Mbu?

Jealous of his badboy skills, obviously

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:49 am  

The Penguin wrote:

Jealous of his ballboy skills, obviously

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19 man squad for Wigan : Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:28 am  

Dave Lister wrote:

Dorn is an opportunist, I would rather have a grafter like Mbu in the side.

What's your beef with Dorn? He'll be our top try scorer (barring injury) and at 25/1 at the bookies for overall top tryscorer in SL ,well worth a punt. I've heard all the adoration of Scott Hill stuff but the fact remains that only on the odd occasion did we see the Scott Hill of old at the Stoop, more's the pity.

However I'll agree with you about Joe Mbu.