Re: Team for the final : Thu May 26, 2022 5:44 pm  

"So they have players extra, and we have a massive miss, it is going to take them being off their game i'm afraid for us to come up with anything."

Sounds like you've made your mind up already. I wouldn't bother watching!

Re: Team for the final : Thu May 26, 2022 5:49 pm  

I'm a realist yes. They now have all the cards, Fages has really been huge in our better performances and has the experience and temperament for this type of game. We now have no halves with any experience at this level.

Thinking about it i would actually play Lolohea and Russell in the halves and Golding at full back with Pryce on the bench. I just do not rate Cogger at all, he is so average in everything he does.

Re: Team for the final : Thu May 26, 2022 5:55 pm  

Hangerman2 wrote:

I'm a realist yes. They now have all the cards, Fages has really been huge in our better performances and has the experience and temperament for this type of game. We now have no halves with any experience at this level.

So? Neither do they if they play cust and smith! Both younger than our halves.

If leuleui does play he will probably play at 9 rather than in the halves and there are question marks over whether he’s fully fit and will actually play.
I’d stay home and wash your hair if I were you hangerman. You’ve already made your mind up we are doomed. I do hope the team don’t read how confident you are in their ability.

Re: Team for the final : Thu May 26, 2022 5:58 pm  

I say it as i see it, feel free to be critical but it won't change me. I'm not saying we can't win, what i said was that they need to have a bad day for us to have a chance now.

Re: Team for the final : Thu May 26, 2022 5:58 pm  

Hangerman2 wrote:

I'm a realist yes. They now have all the cards, Fages has really been huge in our better performances and has the experience and temperament for this type of game. We now have no halves with any experience at this level.

Thinking about it i would actually play Lolohea and Russell in the halves and Golding at full back with Pryce on the bench. I just do not rate Cogger at all, he is so average in everything he does.

I’m glad you’re not coach.

Re: Team for the final : Thu May 26, 2022 5:59 pm  

Fages has played 6 games this season. Do you go watch us?

He's a cracking player! Don't get me wrong. But you talk like we cant play without him?

We have a solid side, we will be fit, we will be organised and we will very much be up for it.

Im sure Fages will be there with the team to hope out. We have good numbers of big game experience lads now.

Re: Team for the final : Thu May 26, 2022 6:06 pm  

HD8CK1 wrote:

How many games has Fages played for us this season? He is a big miss, but I remain confident we will put in a good performance. I was in the camp last season of doubting Russell's ability to continue improving. I am very pleased to be eating my words this season. The young man is growing into a leader on the pitch. By all accounts his hamstring is fine and he is good to go. I have been happy with Coggers performances and would say hes continued to improve and grow on me. Russell and Cogger are capable of making us tick with Tui helping with the creative kicking.

I went to Wigan to watch us and Pryce struggled with their physicality. For a Cup Final where the intensity will be through the roof I simply cant see how he will be match fit and up to defensive duties. Cogger starts without a doubt for me and I think Watson too. Can Pryce take a position on the bench? Its a shoot out between him and Golding. Golding has earned the spot and is very versatile. Could Pryce produce THE moment of pure class to win the game? Without a doubt.

Also watching at Wigan I saw our pack really tear into them in the second half. We won the battle up front convincingly in my view but couldn't convert that dominance into tries. Which would push us needing Pryce on the bench. Also we didn't have Levi there so he will be a great addition for us to up the tempo and push them hard.

But with all things considered, Im still on the fence! haha. Id like like to see Pryce have 25mins at a tiring Wigan depending on the game situation.

Its going to be an arm wrestle. I just hope we start well and then grind them down over the 80 minutes. Really impressed by our fitness levels particularly across the bigger lads. Here's hoping we can do it.

It’s an interesting idea to play pryce on the bench instead of golding but a risk. Not sure one I’d personally want to take in a final but Watson may feel differently. it would mean we had plenty of creativity out there. It means Levi has to play a full 80 minutes and we have to pray he doesn’t get injured during the game as we have no one really able to cover properly in that position. It means if he does get injured or towards the end of the game as he tired we would be vulnerable around the ruck and wigan are masters at exploiting that.
I’m glad it’s not my choice to make!

Re: Team for the final : Thu May 26, 2022 6:07 pm  

I think that if Ollie is fit then he and Cogger will play in the halves. If not then Pryce will come in. It would be just like him to put in a MOM performance. Golding should be on the bench for me as he has proved his worth over the past few months and he can cover most positions in case we need to. Tommy Leuluai being selected is a strange one for me as Peet said he wouldnt be fit for ages, maybe Peet is playing a few mind games with Watson over selection. If he does play its a major boost for Wigan when we played them away he was the difference between the two teams IMO. Although his interpretation of the offside rule leaves a lot to be desired as he seemed to spend most of his time in our line near enough

Re: Team for the final : Thu May 26, 2022 6:17 pm  

You obviously didn't read what i said, he has been the difference against the better teams. He played against, Hull in quarter final, Hull KR in semi Final, Catalan and the wigan win and was missing from the Warrington debacle. Maybe i just watch more closely than you?

Re: Team for the final : Thu May 26, 2022 10:21 pm  

Have we won any other games apart from those to which you refer? You are extremely blinkered!

He has been the difference? So you're saying we would have lost if hadn't have played? Sweeping an unsupportable statements. But I respect your views.

Hes a good player. We will be still be good without him.

Up the Giants. Ill be enjoying the game and I will enjoy the fact we have a good team and we have a chance.

I really wouldn't bother watching if I were you but each to their own!