: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:02 pm  

If he is that good, why are saints getting rid of him?

And if we want to be a top team, why are we taking their castoffs?

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:06 pm  

Saints aren't getting rid of him though. He's been offered one year and wants two.

Saints have a plethora of back rowers and are short at prop. They also have a fair few very promising young second rowers developing.

He's OOC so he's going to end up being top of the list to depart despiute them having other second rowers who are, IMO, not as good.

The more I think about it the more I'm warming to the idea. He's still a top player and he has much to offer us, especially when it comes to running good lines, pulling defences about and busting tackles.

[Durham Giant]

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:09 pm  

The key to signing him is what does he give us a VALUE added player.

He is a good player but age counts against him, he will only be a short term signing. The problem is that signing established Stars costs Salary cap money.

If we can get him at the RIGHT price then i would be happy with him but if it means we have to keep Scully because we have no money left for a better prop i would say no.

We need a PROP and a quality half back plus possibly a hooker before we need another second row.

If we can get these three as well as Gilmour then good if not then i would regard the other positions as been a priority.


What this discussion does show is how much the club has come on that we can be having disagreements on whether we should be signing England and GB internationals.

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:57 pm  

Spot on DG

As for Raleigh becoming prop, he will need a season to get up to scratch there so cant count.

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:08 pm  

Raleigh has been a 2nd row cum prop for the past two seasons. He has always run like a prop when in possession. With his intelligence, I'd hope he will be at home almost immediately in the front row.

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:17 pm  

I suppose some of that will depend on whether we see Korky back here next season. ATM I still think Scully has it all on to prove he's worth a place with us next year, I don't think he's justified it yet and certainly not the rumoured £90k.

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:23 pm  

Aye, even if Raleigh does step up to prop, I think we need another one thats reliable if Jacko is off.

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:24 pm  

hope this is true

gilmour is a top top player and would be in my first choice team every week... got speed which our team lacks and a winning mentality

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:27 pm  

Our back row doesnt lack speed, far from it.

and again, why are we looking to take another teams cast offs if we are wanting to push to the top?

If he isnt good enough for Saints for 2 more years, why is he good enough for us for 2 years?

: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:35 pm  

i think our team lacks pace compared to other teams and previous seasons.. need a jenson or a frew! we make lots of breaks but get caught far too often. D hodgson has lost his pace probably due to the knee injury and lost confidence to go for it! did it again down at harlequins

wild and kirmond are quick second rowers though

I think gilmour would get in any team in super league.. he will push us to the top where he has played for the most of his career