Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:29 pm  

Roman Officer wrote:

But that's not always the case Frank - for instance you have given up smoking now for how many days? Yet I am still suffering from being around you all those years you smoked

Well done you for giving up though and KEEP IT UP mate

Wish he would give up drinking Henry, that would save us a bob or two.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:38 pm  

For me ive NO SYMPATHY for Gov , he knew the risks and still chose to Dabble,as do all the Players.

Drugs when misused are EVIL,i have a younger Brother ,hes been in the Cemetery for 22 years now through Drugs ,i can also see 4 of his mates graves from his ,never tell me Drugs are OK, they are not they Ruin lives and families,ihad to get this off my chest,lets talk about RUGBY .

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:18 pm  

Well said Charlie I used to run around with agroup of about 10 or 12 mates. There are only 5 of us left all but one have gone through drugs. Don't anyone tell me drink is just as bad. Yes lets get back to rugby.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:25 pm  

Sorry to heat about the deaths, it is very sad and I have been mates with a few who died myself. I am tipping that ALL of them died due to injecting heroin though. I am willing to bet that none of them died from coke or cannabis or LSD directly though. I have known a few who have died from liver failure though, a few of those under 40. Guess what from.

If a player was taking steroids, clenbuterol, EPO etc then that is cheating and should be punished much more severely than someone taking recreational drugs. If a player took speed or coke just before KO you could class it as a PED mind.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:19 pm  

you can't lump all illegal drugs as killers life ruiners perhaps and as for comparisons re deaths just ask your GP's

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:46 pm  

Hmmmm, looking around google for any kind of results = US gubbermint saying what can and can not be said....

Not a surprise for the US mind. They just help wage a war in Columbia......whilst........no ex presidents named at all. no siree.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:25 am  

Before we throw the boy on the scrap heap lets look at the model set by our friends down the road with Mr Hock. he now has a choice - carry on and remian a pariah or work at putting things right! Yes Govins been a complete tool, but he should be given help and support, IF HE WANTS IT!!!

FWIW - I agree with the comments on the hypocrisy or lack of understanding re. controlled substances, yes a line of coke is harmful but then again draping yourself over a bar and drinking 30 units of alcohol is equally harmful, argubly more so, yet one is illegal and 'performance enhancing', the other is all'reet and considered the stuff of a 'bit of a lad'.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:54 am  

Athy Box Yed wrote:

Sorry to heat about the deaths, it is very sad and I have been mates with a few who died myself. I am tipping that ALL of them died due to injecting heroin though. I am willing to bet that none of them died from coke or cannabis or LSD directly though. I have known a few who have died from liver failure though, a few of those under 40. Guess what from.

If a player was taking steroids, clenbuterol, EPO etc then that is cheating and should be punished much more severely than someone taking recreational drugs. If a player took speed or coke just before KO you could class it as a PED mind.

With reply to your statement , my brother never injected drugs ,he died because his body had no tolarence to what he took ,resulting in an Overdose ,though i stress it wasnt suicide on his part , anyone who knew him and he was well known ,would tell you his love of life , he was a Foolish lad who made a very costly mistake ,i STILL MISS HIM THOUGH,again i say lets talk about RUGBY.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:12 am  

frankb wrote:

Well that is my point Peter I think it should not be banned and be left to the individual.

with great respect that's all well and good as long as it dosn't affect other individuals ie passive smoking,drunken driving & psychological affect a drugs death has on the family etc - a cousin died of drug abuse at 21 and wasn't discovered for days which totally devastated his parents et al.What a waste of a life........

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:38 am  

But he'll still be hanging around with the same old mates who are doing the same old thing , so the temptation to have another dabble is always there .

That's my theory on why so many who go into rehab or prison ( well maybe drugs are just as rife in there ) to get clean / dry out come out and hang out with the same old gang and are soon back to square one .