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Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:58 pm  
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Not sure what beans Sam can spill, he is not even allowed to leave the boundaries of Halifax, so I hear. Poor sod.


I doubt that is true to be honest but if it were then what he has done must be pretty serious. Then again isnt at the crown court?
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Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:21 pm  
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I doubt that is true to be honest but if it were then what he has done must be pretty serious. Then again isnt at the crown court?

I've been told Sam appearence IS at Crown Court.
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Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:45 pm  
http://www.totalrl.com/rowley-opens-up-about-leigh-departure/

DB evidently wants to promote AB Sundecks via the Leigh Centurions vehicle, getting more exposure in Super League and this could work in synergy for AB and Leigh Centurions as 2 separate businesses with 1 effectively funding the other. No problem with that as it's important both businesses flourish. Has this aggressive businesses model got in the way, and forced players such as Sarsfield to leave which I for one thought was a strange decision. And/or could it be related to DB being somewhat in cahoots with Mr. Salford now? Are they doing some deals without the coaches knowing about it?

Rowley might have morals but what an opportunity this year would have been to bolster his CV, and I think most Leigh fans would have loved to have seen him take this opportunity of progressing the club further. Maybe a bit of self-sabotage or doubt there as well, not thinking he deserves the squad and/or believing he can get Leigh promoted? Surely he's paid to do a job, so he should get on with it, you can't always agree with the boss as I'm sure many have experienced?

Hasn't taken long though for him to start speaking. Has he made the right decision? He also put a lot of other people's jobs at risk, which luckily DB has temporarily prevented. And you could say if he wasn't happy last year, why bail out now after selling this years dream to the fans, maybe he should have jumped earlier?

Rowley going may have afforded Lee Smith's contract, so maybe a blessing in disguise?
http://www.totalrl.com/rowley-opens-up-about-leigh-departure/

DB evidently wants to promote AB Sundecks via the Leigh Centurions vehicle, getting more exposure in Super League and this could work in synergy for AB and Leigh Centurions as 2 separate businesses with 1 effectively funding the other. No problem with that as it's important both businesses flourish. Has this aggressive businesses model got in the way, and forced players such as Sarsfield to leave which I for one thought was a strange decision. And/or could it be related to DB being somewhat in cahoots with Mr. Salford now? Are they doing some deals without the coaches knowing about it?

Rowley might have morals but what an opportunity this year would have been to bolster his CV, and I think most Leigh fans would have loved to have seen him take this opportunity of progressing the club further. Maybe a bit of self-sabotage or doubt there as well, not thinking he deserves the squad and/or believing he can get Leigh promoted? Surely he's paid to do a job, so he should get on with it, you can't always agree with the boss as I'm sure many have experienced?

Hasn't taken long though for him to start speaking. Has he made the right decision? He also put a lot of other people's jobs at risk, which luckily DB has temporarily prevented. And you could say if he wasn't happy last year, why bail out now after selling this years dream to the fans, maybe he should have jumped earlier?

Rowley going may have afforded Lee Smith's contract, so maybe a blessing in disguise?
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Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:48 pm  
Up until Paul Rowley's Radio 5 Live interview comments/quotes, as highlighted by Jenky initially & a few others since, I have been really happy with everything going on at Leigh.

The increased cap that was brokered by DB with the RFL seemed to cover the signings at least up to & including Rangi.

The income of the Club through the turnstile is double that of 2 or 3 seasons ago & likely close to par with Salford & Wakefield, so no issues there.

DB himself has deposited a sum of money to cover costs & prove financial viability for the Club, all good.

Now, I have never questioned the dealings of the club, apart from when the players were going unpaid & collection buckets were going round the LSV to help pay the money owed to the players a few years back.

Everything just seemed so 'right'.

Now, with these new comments by PR, I am genuinely worried about what is going on at Leigh.
I knew in my heart of hearts that PR just resigning like that with only 10 days to Kick Off was bad, very, very bad.

I hope that this is the lesser of all evils & that it is simply a case of DB getting too involved/pushy in terms of player recruitment.
Maybe Paul didn't want Rangi ? Or, maybe the signing of Lee Smith was against his wishes & an interference too far from DB that PR couldn't accept.
This is for me the best case scenario.

Should we/Leigh have spent over the cap by using technical loopholes that are not punishable, then not so good.

Should we/Leigh have deliberately contravened the cap & be liable to punishment by way of points deductions & therefore forfeiture of a SL place *should we/Leigh achieve promotion* then it could put the club back 20 years.

Let's not lose sight of the fact when opposition fans are stirring though, it was Marwan Koukash who first said he would break the cap at Salford & it is widely rumoured that he ran 2 paying accounts for players, *someone has suggested this on here about Leigh*

&

didn't Wigan deliberately break the cap by c £250k in an effort to avoid relegation & went largely unpunished by the RFL.

I haven't heard the rumours as to exactly why PR left, but I am now genuinely concerned & feel that this needs to be sorted out fast & permanently.
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Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:51 pm  
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I've been told Sam appearence IS at Crown Court.


Seems I missed an 'it' out. :D
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Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:04 pm  
Just read the Total RL/PR interview & it has to be said that it looks as though either Paul is distancing himself from dealings at the club or he had an almighty bumping of heads with DB.

I wish that someone who truly knows would make it all crystal.
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Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:40 pm  
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Up until Paul Rowley's Radio 5 Live interview comments/quotes, as highlighted by Jenky initially & a few others since,


To be honest I didn't hear half of those things that Paul is being quoted as saying by Total RL when I heard him talking to Dave Woods on 5 Live at the end of the Wigan v Catalan game so can only presume Paul did an interview either before the Wigan v Catalans game or at half time.

Seems a bit strange?
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Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:45 pm  
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To be honest I didn't hear half of those things that Paul is being quoted as saying by Total RL when I heard him talking to Dave Woods on 5 Live at the end of the Wigan v Catalan game so can only presume Paul did an interview either before the Wigan v Catalans game or at half time.

Seems a bit strange?

Yes there seems to be a lot in that report that I don't recollect hearing.
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Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:24 pm  
Maybe things are being added on, Chinese whispers and all that.
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Re: Has Rowley Gone : Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:50 pm  
TV BOY wrote:
Yes there seems to be a lot in that report that I don't recollect hearing.


From Dave Woods Twitter account - THIS
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Yes there seems to be a lot in that report that I don't recollect hearing.


From Dave Woods Twitter account - THIS
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