[Dick Jones]

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:45 am  

maurice wrote:

Reality check here Mish, this shouldn't be about sticking a nose into board meetings and saying nowt.

This is about how our clubs future is mapped, the income will come from fans be it via sponsorship, LISA, Lottery, Touchdown or gate receipts. The incumbant board have stated no more money from them, this should mean the shareholding gets diluted over time and I do not understand why Touchdown get shares and LISA doesn't for its contributions.

We need a vibrant stakeholder driven club with a small working Board answerable to those stakeholders. We do not need a club run by committee unable to move quickly when required. We need complete trust and that is gained by transparency and honesty over a period of time.

If we achieve this we create a club Leigh feel and culture, whilst shutting up the barstool know it alls once and for all.

Lisa have been promised the same as the touchdown club, trouble is some of the fans on here dont want it

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:50 am  

Dick Jones wrote:

Lisa have been promised the same as the touchdown club, trouble is some of the fans on here dont want it

So LISA have been promised a share for every £20k - great news!

Taken from the Touchdown section on the official site.

''For every £20,000 reinvested by The Touchdown Club, Sporting Club Leigh will allocate 1 share in the company to The Touchdown Club, allowing one elected representative of The Touchdown Club to sit on the board for a 12 month period.''


No disrespect to LISA but the T/Down club are supposed to represent local business, and as such are more familiar with running a business and its legalities. As a fan I would be far happier with them working at Board level and the Supporters group working with the Board as a shareholder for the benefit of the club and its fans.

[mish]

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:36 am  

maurice wrote:

Reality check here Mish, this shouldn't be about sticking a nose into board meetings and saying nowt.

This is about how our clubs future is mapped, the income will come from fans be it via sponsorship, LISA, Lottery, Touchdown or gate receipts. The incumbant board have stated no more money from them, this should mean the shareholding gets diluted over time and I do not understand why Touchdown get shares and LISA doesn't for its contributions.

We need a vibrant stakeholder driven club with a small working Board answerable to those stakeholders. We do not need a club run by committee unable to move quickly when required. We need complete trust and that is gained by transparency and honesty over a period of time.

If we achieve this we create a club Leigh feel and culture, whilst shutting up the barstool know it alls once and for all.

Pot - kettle - black - springs to mind TBH.

And there's no need to be so rude. This is a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion or to ask questions, whether they understand the intricacies of the situation or not.

[Dick Jones]

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:54 am  

This is How I see it as it stands:-

At last weeks LISA meeting and at the last two fans forums ( I may add) the club directors have stated that LISA have been offered a share and a representative on the board .
This was discussed at the LISA meeting by Phil Coffey and we was asked to nominate 4 or 5 candidates to be vetted by the board(this I dont agree with btw.), then Lisa was to decide which of the candidates that had been approved they wanted to represent them.
No one at the meeting made any objections and passed comment that this was not what they wanted, even though some have since passed comment on this thread.
We are therefore.... me and the LISA chairman, going to arrange a meeting with the club to discuss this further, before we go to a vote etc.
I have put it in the next programme, that the meeting on the 21st March is an important one and I would urge all members to attend, I will also get this into the press and I will email any members I have email address for and get it annouced at the match, that we would like all members to attend the meeting.
I will also send letters to the members that are too far away to attend and offer these a postal vote and anyone else who gets in touch and lets me know they cant attend.
Basically that s all I can do.
Then if LISA decide to take it the offer and it becomes more trouble then its worth and it causes us problems, we can always change back to what we was doing before.
Although I still think LISA should have a Share Holding but we can look at ways we can have this and still remain Independant.
Instead of looking at ways it can fail, lets look at ways it can work, lets not be negative, lets be positive.

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:57 am  

mishmash wrote:

Pot - kettle - black - springs to mind TBH.

And there's no need to be so rude. This is a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion or to ask questions, whether they understand the intricacies of the situation or not.

Mish that is the term given to all the blokes sat in pubs telling you they used to watch Leigh but stopped going because of all the money named directors took out of the club going back to 1895 - I don't think you fall into that category.

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:01 am  

Dick Jones wrote:

This is How I see it as it stands:-

At last weeks LISA meeting and at the last two fans forums ( I may add) the club directors have stated that LISA have been offered a share and a representative on the board .
This was discussed at the LISA meeting by Phil Coffey and we was asked to nominate 4 or 5 candidates to be vetted by the board(this I dont agree with btw.), then Lisa was to decide which of the candidates that had been approved they wanted to represent them.
No one at the meeting made any objections and passed comment that this was not what they wanted, even though some have since passed comment on this thread.
We are therefore.... me and the LISA chairman, going to arrange a meeting with the club to discuss this further, before we go to a vote etc.
I have put it in the next programme, that the meeting on the 21st March is an important one and I would urge all members to attend, I will also get this into the press and I will email any members I have email address for and get it annouced at the match, that we would like all members to attend the meeting.
I will also send letters to the members that are too far away to attend and offer these a postal vote and anyone else who gets in touch and lets me know they cant attend.
Basically that s all I can do.
Then if LISA decide to take it the offer and it becomes more trouble then its worth and it causes us problems, we can always change back to what we was doing before.
Although I still think LISA should have a Share Holding but we can look at ways we can have this and still remain Independant.
Instead of looking at ways it can fail, lets look at ways it can work, lets not be negative, lets be positive.

Dick, have LISA been offered a shareholding or not ?

[Dick Jones]

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:03 am  

maurice wrote:

Mish that is the term given to all the blokes sat in pubs telling you they used to watch Leigh but stopped going because of all the money named directors took out of the club going back to 1895 - I don't think you fall into that category.

The amount of times Ive heard that and Ive been sat with Steve who was a director at the time and its been said its unreal and you know what we can never change their minds about it, we have to say goodbye to people like that and move on.
Since Sporting Club Leigh was set up no Director has taken a penny out of the club never.
It wont happen now, I trust each and every one of the people in charge of our club and if LISA didnt we wouldn't trust them with our members money, simple as.

[Dick Jones]

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:06 am  

Maurice yes that what was said at both the fans forum and the LISA meeting it was offered to us and the TOUCHDOWN CLUB.

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:11 am  

Thanks Dick, thats fantastic news and shows the clubs willingness to become truly transparent.

Do you know when LISA will have donated the £20k required as that would be a fantastic media opportunity to start rubbishing the Barstool Know it Alls. (Not MishMash )

[Dick Jones]

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:18 am  

we have already since the offer was made