Re: Ryan... : Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:13 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Nobody is bigger than the club, be they player, coach or indeed owner, however the difference is that players and coaches take money out of the club, the owner puts it in, I will be backing the one putting it in

I would agree that's a fair point of view.
However, DB is currently a public relations disaster.
Last year we had a very happy camp....in a few months we seem to be losing the plot.
These club statements are mostly cringeworthy....being legally in the right doesn't necessarily let you make friends and influence people.

Re: Ryan... : Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:14 pm  

Who cares Paul if they are the facts then the club have done the right thing IMO

Re: Ryan... : Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:16 pm  

Nozzy wrote:

We went to Warrington with a bid. Warrington informed Mickey about the bid and he said he would like to go to Leigh. Wire and Leigh came to an agreement and we paid 50k for him.

All done in the proper way and all done through his parent club at Wire as the rules state.

I bet that's exactly as it happened.

Re: Ryan... : Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:22 pm  

The trouble with all these tapping up allegations are that they are very difficult to prove. Bradford had something similar happen to them a few seasons ago with Huddersfield and Craig Kopczak. We were adamant that he had been tapped up, but couldn't prove it.
It was only when Keith Mason took the Giants to court over a completely separate matter that the truth came out when some club officials were under oath in court.

Even then, despite that, the rfl took an absolute eternity to do anything about it and Craig remained a Giants player. Off the top of my head, I don't think the Bulls received any compensation or anything.

I will be very surprised (and disappointed) if the Bulls have made an illegal approach, but I will be even more surprised if Leigh and Derek manage to prove it.

Re: Ryan... : Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:22 pm  

Sensei-Bull wrote:

I bet that's exactly as it happened.

If we are to believe what Warrington, Leigh, Mickey Higham and his agent said then yes, that is what happened.

If we believe what Sensei-Bull from the internet has speculated then maybe not.

I'm going to go with the former.

Re: Ryan... : Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:23 pm  

Paul_Lyon wrote:

I would agree that's a fair point of view.
However, DB is currently a public relations disaster.
Last year we had a very happy camp....in a few months we seem to be losing the plot.
These club statements are mostly cringeworthy....being legally in the right doesn't necessarily let you make friends and influence people.

The thing is everything was fine until Rowley walked out on the eve of the season stating 'personal reasons' and how he wouldn't talk about it then was live on BBC Radio talking about it.
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Ryan has constantly said face to face and in the press he is going nowhere etc, yet puts in a request to leave despite those claims.

I'm not sure any club would have been able to deal with these events any differently as essentially no one still knows why Rowley left and Ryan is saying one thing whilst doing another.
Lets not forget though that in Paul and Ryans situations the media have been aware of what was going o before the club which makes fans form an opinion that shows neither Paul or Ryan in a particularly good light.

Best thing for Leigh now is to not respond to any more press quotes (as they need clubs responding to fan flames as Salfords owner found out)and for our staff, owners and players to now commit to let what we do on the park do the talking, no more DB articles (leave it to the captain and coach) as whatever is said will be twisted.

Let those who want to go leave and those who to play for us (the fans) stay and get on with it.

Re: Ryan... : Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:24 pm  

Nat (Rugby_Aholic) wrote:

You are all clearly too eager to believe Beaumont that you would read a statement like that and believe it! Last week he was off to Canada, now it is the Bulls. He is talking absolute rubbish to try and paper over the cracks that he himself has caused in your squad. He really never fails to deliver does old Derek! Who better to blame than the league rivals?

If turns out to be true and I were Ryan Brierley I would be suing the club for slander/libel for making him look greedy and disloyal by publishing an admitted private conversation.

How are any of your players supposed to talk to your coach in private if they now know that it will be made public at Beaumonts desire!

WOW! You just sound like Mr Jagger.

Re: Ryan... : Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:27 pm  

The 50k was a sweetener for Higham. Wolves didn't accept the offer for the money, get real. Higham had been unsettled and the money helped cushion the blow. It's so sweet how you think your club is so innocent. I could honestly cry. http://m.shieldsgazette.com/sport/other ... -1-7270657

The 50k was a sweetener for Higham. Wolves didn't accept the offer for the money, get real. Higham had been unsettled and the money helped cushion the blow. It's so sweet how you think your club is so innocent. I could honestly cry. http://m.shieldsgazette.com/sport/other ... -1-7270657

Re: Ryan... : Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:29 pm  

No Leigh are not angels, but they did contact Warrington first, and then Mickey became 'unsettled' if you like, wanted to return to his 'hometown club' despite the fact he could win silverware with Warrington in his latter years. Brierley is young, and not from Bradford, but your 'angelic' club did not contact Leigh Centurions first (according to our club statement). So, he will not be joining you guys, he will be on 'gardening leave' for the remainder of the season (unless he joins a SL club). As if we would let him go to the club who are our MAIN rivals. So you'll be glad he's played his last game for us, but won't be playing for Bradford Bulls either.

Re: Ryan... : Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:34 pm  

Sensei-Bull wrote: The 50k was a sweetener for Higham. Wolves didn't accept the offer for the money, get real. Higham had been unsettled and the money helped cushion the blow. It's so sweet how you think your club is so innocent. I could honestly cry. http://m.shieldsgazette.com/sport/other ... -1-7270657 Of course the 50k was a sweetener. Higham and Smith were not getting along and were falling out over the lack of an offer for the next season to Mickey. Leigh were obviously aware of this disagreement with Mickey being a Leigh lad and took advantage of it. It was cheeky and I understand why Wire were p*ssed off but it was all done through the proper channels. Warrington, despite being annoyed have never said that we did anything wrong. Just that they were unhappy with it. The offer to Higham went through Warrington first. FACT. This offer has seemingly gone straight to Brierley and his agent without ever approaching or informing Leigh Centurions. You are just wrong on this one.

Sensei-Bull wrote: The 50k was a sweetener for Higham. Wolves didn't accept the offer for the money, get real. Higham had been unsettled and the money helped cushion the blow. It's so sweet how you think your club is so innocent. I could honestly cry. http://m.shieldsgazette.com/sport/other ... -1-7270657 Of course the 50k was a sweetener. Higham and Smith were not getting along and were falling out over the lack of an offer for the next season to Mickey. Leigh were obviously aware of this disagreement with Mickey being a Leigh lad and took advantage of it. It was cheeky and I understand why Wire were p*ssed off but it was all done through the proper channels. Warrington, despite being annoyed have never said that we did anything wrong. Just that they were unhappy with it. The offer to Higham went through Warrington first. FACT. This offer has seemingly gone straight to Brierley and his agent without ever approaching or informing Leigh Centurions. You are just wrong on this one.