FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Rebrand - Success or Flop
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain3382
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 25 20159 years129th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Dec 24 16:1125th Nov 24 21:46LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Here (But Only for the Beer)

Re: Rebrand - Success or Flop : Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:34 pm  
:D You never disappoint, Mo, but please explain the metric (and whose it is).
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4018
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 04 200519 years217th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Dec 24 01:2221st Dec 24 20:59LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Vancouver, Canada
Signature
First game was in 1967, and have been hooked since day 1. Now live in Vancouver, Canada but follow our team any way I can.
“Up The Comics !”

Re: Rebrand - Success or Flop : Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:42 am  
I actually think the shirt was one of, if not the master stroke. Certainly not my style (not that I have any style anymore), but it was designed to shock and garner comment. Comment about our team. It most certainly did that in spades, and it still is being talked about. People who would never have given our team a second thought, including fans from other sports, know who we are and are seeing us succeed.
And the whole package, re-name, shirt, team success, quality coaching staff, pre-game entertainment, game day as an event not just a game, home support growth, away support numbers, and a passionate owner who backs his club funding wise, and doesn’t shy away from the public eye, media and social media. All sounds like a perfect fit for IMG
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain342
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 26 20186 years317th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th Dec 24 18:3019th Dec 24 17:32LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Rebrand - Success or Flop : Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:44 am  
Rugby fantastic kit appalling.The only way the rebranding can be a success is if it attracts further investment not sponsorship but some real backing from one of imgs many partners otherwise we are built on sand a dose of reality with rfl announcing losses
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member16601No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 16 200222 years317th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Mar 24 11:1225th Nov 23 20:25LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
A rose between 2 thorns

Re: Rebrand - Success or Flop : Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:51 pm  
Just trying to think which clubs aren’t built on sand ?? Most soccer clubs have currently massive over valuations when looking to P/E ratios etc many have huge debts secured on those valuations, and local clubs not in PL with recent admin issues. We need an extra 1000 paying fans, if we can’t find them then we don’t deserve a seat at the table. All sports that are not truly international are struggling for the scraps
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain342
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 26 20186 years317th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th Dec 24 18:3019th Dec 24 17:32LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Rebrand - Success or Flop : Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:37 pm  
an extra 1000 on top of what 6/7000 for what break even make a profit pay off debts what is imgs end game we dont want derek to sell and our club to move and die
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain3382
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 25 20159 years129th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Dec 24 16:1125th Nov 24 21:46LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Here (But Only for the Beer)

Re: Rebrand - Success or Flop : Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:35 pm  
Mention should be made of another part of the rebrand. Well done to the Leopard ladies today, in trying circumstances.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman6602No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 23 200223 years330th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
16th Dec 24 10:0616th Dec 24 10:05LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
On my way to SL with the mighty Leythers!!
Signature
LIVING THE DREAM ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPER LEAGUE PLAY-OFFS!

''All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them''

Re: Rebrand - Success or Flop : Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:43 am  
satanicmills wrote:
an extra 1000 on top of what 6/7000 for what break even make a profit pay off debts what is imgs end game we dont want derek to sell and our club to move and die


5.5K home fans dont pay for the current squad....
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player624
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 13 20204 years247th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Dec 24 15:5225th Dec 24 00:29LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Rebrand - Success or Flop : Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:05 am  
DB stated in 2017, that Leigh made a profit from smaller attendances. Obviously the matchday costs have gone up with the entertainment put on, and the chances are Leigh are close to the salary cap (even with a small squad) and probably paying for 2 marquee players.

Revenue is up on attendances and sponsorship, but DB is still very much bankrolling the club. Apparently the club are missing out on online merchandising sales with the website down for 9 months and stocks low at the shop. People seem to like anything spotted (who would have thought).

Last year was the key and that is where Derek bank-rolled the club with no guarantees, players like Asiata, Lam, Amone, Ipape and O'Donnell are the bedrock of this team and they all Championship rugby last season. This group are now stars of the Super League, but it was far from obvious that this would be the case.

I am guessing money is not an issue to Derek when things are going well, and things are going exceptionally well.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman6602No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 23 200223 years330th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
16th Dec 24 10:0616th Dec 24 10:05LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
On my way to SL with the mighty Leythers!!
Signature
LIVING THE DREAM ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPER LEAGUE PLAY-OFFS!

''All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them''

Re: Rebrand - Success or Flop : Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:17 am  
Septimius Severus wrote:
DB stated in 2017, that Leigh made a profit from smaller attendances. Obviously the matchday costs have gone up with the entertainment put on, and the chances are Leigh are close to the salary cap (even with a small squad) and probably paying for 2 marquee players.

Revenue is up on attendances and sponsorship, but DB is still very much bankrolling the club. Apparently the club are missing out on online merchandising sales with the website down for 9 months and stocks low at the shop. People seem to like anything spotted (who would have thought).

Last year was the key and that is where Derek bank-rolled the club with no guarantees, players like Asiata, Lam, Amone, Ipape and O'Donnell are the bedrock of this team and they all Championship rugby last season. This group are now stars of the Super League, but it was far from obvious that this would be the case.

I am guessing money is not an issue to Derek when things are going well, and things are going exceptionally well.


i think even without the outstanding event entertainment the operating costs of matchday will have risen beyond belief from the LSV management since 2017; increased % of matchday tickets, unbelievable amount of unnecessary stewards, operation of 4 stands, traffic management - the list is probably endless from them... hopefully significant increase in membership take up for 2024 will reassure all at the Leopards that its certainly worth providing for
ColD 
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman7024No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 22 200223 years280th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Dec 24 20:2515th Dec 24 20:41LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Just Behind Parksides Club
Signature
Onwards and upwards - LTID

Re: Rebrand - Success or Flop : Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:16 pm  
Tipster Ste wrote:
5.5K home fans dont pay for the current squad....


Does the Sky money not pay for the squad, thought that was the equivalent of the salary cap :?
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 24 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Leigh Leopards


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Leeds away first up
PopTart
126
Recent
Assistant Coach - Langley
Bulls Boy 20
33
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
Tarquin Fueg
258
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Once were Lo
605
Recent
Film game
karetaker
6496
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
63591
Recent
Red Bull
karetaker
7
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2740
Recent
This forum
Redscat
26
Recent
ONeill
The Biffs Ba
27
Recent
What has happened
wakeytrin
12
Recent
Hull liveTomlinson
The Dentist
51
Recent
This forum
karetaker
9
Recent
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41019
Recent
Its all gone a bit quiet
The Curtism
32
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
21s
Leeds away first up
PopTart
126
38s
Pre-season
YoRhino
35
58s
Film game
karetaker
6496
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Once were Lo
605
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2740
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
63591
4m
This forum
Redscat
26
7m
Pre Season - 2025
Tarquin Fueg
258
7m
Assistant Coach - Langley
Bulls Boy 20
33
8m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41019
10m
Red Bull
karetaker
7
15m
What has happened
wakeytrin
12
31m
Hull liveTomlinson
The Dentist
51
45m
Its all gone a bit quiet
The Curtism
32
65m
ONeill
The Biffs Ba
27
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
What has happened
wakeytrin
12
TODAY
This forum
Redscat
26
TODAY
Harry Robertson Interview
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Trinity to Win Festive Challenge
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Great News
PopTart
12
TODAY
Happy Christmas Everyone
Hessle Roade
14
TODAY
Merry Christmas Everyone
The Avenger
9
TODAY
Booking to watch the boxing Day game online
rollin thund
7
TODAY
In Memoriam Bernard McGurrin
Zig
2
TODAY
Total RL site closed
Trojan Horse
10
TODAY
James Batchelor extends deal
Huddersfield
2
TODAY
Tigers sign wolves forward on season long loan
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Red Bull
karetaker
7
TODAY
Bulls TV
Wigan Bull
4
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Playing Squad 2025
Vancouver Le
13
TODAY
The Shay
Encouraged
7
TODAY
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of the Year at BBC Sports Personality Awards
Huddersfield
2
TODAY
BBC SPOTY Team of the year
muttywhitedo
11
TODAY
Pre Season Thread
Bull Mania
22
TODAY
Trinity Heritage Podcast Quiz
PopTart
3
TODAY
New Shirts
Kick and cha
4
TODAY
Sizing on womens shirts
WillCherno
1
TODAY
Ben Lam Leaves Dragons
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
New Roles for HULL KR
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Questions regarding seeing a game at Bradford
Fr13daY
3
TODAY
Alec Tuitavake
Jack Gaskell
5
TODAY
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
515
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
712
Ben Lam Leaves Dragons..
509
New Roles for HULL KR...
509
Jet2 has signed a major sponso..
652
Thirkill and Hood complete Hul..
705
Captains Challenge for Televis..
929
England Women Las Vegas train-..
1133
Opening Championship and Leagu..
1326
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
2669
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
1656
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
2257
England's Women Demolish The W..
2035
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
2420
Operational Rules Tribunal ..
2018
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Leeds away first up
PopTart
126
Recent
Assistant Coach - Langley
Bulls Boy 20
33
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
Tarquin Fueg
258
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Once were Lo
605
Recent
Film game
karetaker
6496
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
63591
Recent
Red Bull
karetaker
7
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2740
Recent
This forum
Redscat
26
Recent
ONeill
The Biffs Ba
27
Recent
What has happened
wakeytrin
12
Recent
Hull liveTomlinson
The Dentist
51
Recent
This forum
karetaker
9
Recent
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41019
Recent
Its all gone a bit quiet
The Curtism
32
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
21s
Leeds away first up
PopTart
126
38s
Pre-season
YoRhino
35
58s
Film game
karetaker
6496
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Once were Lo
605
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2740
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
63591
4m
This forum
Redscat
26
7m
Pre Season - 2025
Tarquin Fueg
258
7m
Assistant Coach - Langley
Bulls Boy 20
33
8m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41019
10m
Red Bull
karetaker
7
15m
What has happened
wakeytrin
12
31m
Hull liveTomlinson
The Dentist
51
45m
Its all gone a bit quiet
The Curtism
32
65m
ONeill
The Biffs Ba
27
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
What has happened
wakeytrin
12
TODAY
This forum
Redscat
26
TODAY
Harry Robertson Interview
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Trinity to Win Festive Challenge
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Great News
PopTart
12
TODAY
Happy Christmas Everyone
Hessle Roade
14
TODAY
Merry Christmas Everyone
The Avenger
9
TODAY
Booking to watch the boxing Day game online
rollin thund
7
TODAY
In Memoriam Bernard McGurrin
Zig
2
TODAY
Total RL site closed
Trojan Horse
10
TODAY
James Batchelor extends deal
Huddersfield
2
TODAY
Tigers sign wolves forward on season long loan
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Red Bull
karetaker
7
TODAY
Bulls TV
Wigan Bull
4
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Playing Squad 2025
Vancouver Le
13
TODAY
The Shay
Encouraged
7
TODAY
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of the Year at BBC Sports Personality Awards
Huddersfield
2
TODAY
BBC SPOTY Team of the year
muttywhitedo
11
TODAY
Pre Season Thread
Bull Mania
22
TODAY
Trinity Heritage Podcast Quiz
PopTart
3
TODAY
New Shirts
Kick and cha
4
TODAY
Sizing on womens shirts
WillCherno
1
TODAY
Ben Lam Leaves Dragons
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
New Roles for HULL KR
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Questions regarding seeing a game at Bradford
Fr13daY
3
TODAY
Alec Tuitavake
Jack Gaskell
5
TODAY
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
515
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
712
Ben Lam Leaves Dragons..
509
New Roles for HULL KR...
509
Jet2 has signed a major sponso..
652
Thirkill and Hood complete Hul..
705
Captains Challenge for Televis..
929
England Women Las Vegas train-..
1133
Opening Championship and Leagu..
1326
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
2669
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
1656
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
2257
England's Women Demolish The W..
2035
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
2420
Operational Rules Tribunal ..
2018


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!