Re: St Helens : Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:43 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

I’ve been watching us for years, and so often it has been “same old, same old”. This feels different. I’m not saying it will be a smooth road or a title is a given. just that they don’t seem as flakey. Using youngsters and non 1st team players rather than trying to shoe horn 1st choice players into a position is also a good sign.

I know what you mean but the "false dawn" of the 8 games of 2023 is still fresh in the memory.

Re: St Helens : Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:13 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

I know what you mean but the "false dawn" of the 8 games of 2023 is still fresh in the memory.

I agree W71 but I never felt those 8 games truly reflected where we were, BUT I certainly didn’t expect us to fall off a cliff in the way we did!
It feels like our foundations are more solid this season (fingers etc crossed).

Re: St Helens : Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:23 pm  

Only one way this season implodes and that is if Burgess left which, despite the best prayers of opposition fans, isn’t going to happen.

Re: St Helens : Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:45 pm  

ratticusfinch wrote:

Only one way this season implodes and that is if Burgess left which, despite the best prayers of opposition fans, isn’t going to happen.

Funny how its gone with Burgess isnt it.... when he was appointed, there was a load on here up for lynching Moran.. who made the decision to appoint.... i cba going back to dig up the thread, but there were plenty of people with bad things to say about the appointment.... im pretty sure there were also people wanting Tony Smith back.

Re: St Helens : Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:10 pm  

Thank god Holbrook turned us down!

Despite the aura and relationships with players I love the way he listens and doesn’t think he knows it all despite his standing in the game. Imagine if Currie had asked Powell if he could play loose forward or Max Wood asking him to go out on loan…..they’d probably have been shipped off permanently.

Re: St Helens : Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:27 pm  

I think we all owe Mrs.Holbrook a huge debt of gratitude.

Re: St Helens : Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:59 am  

Just thinking, when was the last time stains knocked us out of a cup/playoff tie? Must be over 10 years now?

Re: St Helens : Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:01 am  

Gazwire wrote:

Just thinking, when was the last time stains knocked us out of a cup/playoff tie? Must be over 10 years now?

Last year in the playoffs, but even then they didn't win convincingly against a poor side.

Before that I think we have to go back a good while.

Re: St Helens : Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:12 am  

Gazwire wrote:

Just thinking, when was the last time stains knocked us out of a cup/playoff tie? Must be over 10 years now?

Challenge Cup.
We have had the hoodoo for the last 3 games

2024 Wire 31-8 Saints
2020 Wire 20 -18 Saints
2019 Wire 18-4 Saints (final)

But before that it was all one way.

2008 Wire 34-40 Saints
2007 Wire 14-25 Saints
2002 Wire 14 - 36 Saints
1998 Wire 22-35 Saints
1987 Wire 20-24 Saints
1977 Wire 8 -12 Saints
1976 Wire 12-13 Saints
1972 Wire 6-10 Saints
...

If we make it to Wembley and if Wigan make it too. We owe them big time for 89/90.

Re: St Helens : Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:25 am  

Wires71 wrote:

Challenge Cup.
We have had the hoodoo for the last 3 games

2024 Wire 31-8 Saints
2020 Wire 20 -18 Saints
2019 Wire 18-4 Saints (final)

But before that it was all one way.

2008 Wire 34-40 Saints
2007 Wire 14-25 Saints
2002 Wire 14 - 36 Saints
1998 Wire 22-35 Saints
1987 Wire 20-24 Saints
1977 Wire 8 -12 Saints
1976 Wire 12-13 Saints
1972 Wire 6-10 Saints
...

If we make it to Wembley and if Wigan make it too. We owe them big time for 89/90.

Didn't we knock Saints out away from home in 1993/94 in the Cup? That was my first year of watching. I'm pretty sure Steve Prescott had a nightmare on the wing for Saints.

Unless this was the Regal Trophy of course, it's easy to forget we used to have several competitions pre-SL.