Gil Dudson 5 MATCH BAN : Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:06 pm  

I know some have commented on the match thread but I think it warrants its own topic.

I went to my first Wire game some sixty years ago, sat in the old wooden stand with my nan. (Grandad was working so I got his ticket). I've seen some really dirty players - Joe Price, Mike Nicholas, Rathbone etc. Some of what they did was bad, even by the standards that prevailed at that time, but what Dudson did was beyond acceptable today. I just don't want Warrington to be associated with the bloke, though he holds a contract.

My view, which I fully expect to be derided, is that whatever ban is handed out, the club should extend it. So if he gets ten matches, the club extends it to (say) twelve. His action isn't acceptable to rugby fans and the club needs to demonstrate that it doesn't wish to be associated with such behaviour.

Re: Gil Dudson : Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:12 pm  

Ken Parr's Back Pass wrote:

I know some have commented on the match thread but I think it warrants its own topic.

I went to my first Wire game some sixty years ago, sat in the old wooden stand with my nan. (Grandad was working so I got his ticket). I've seen some really dirty players - Joe Price, Mike Nicholas, Rathbone etc. Some of what they did was bad, even by the standards that prevailed at that time, but what Dudson did was beyond acceptable today. I just don't want Warrington to be associated with the bloke, though he holds a contract.

My view, which I fully expect to be derided, is that whatever ban is handed out, the club should extend it. So if he gets ten matches, the club extends it to (say) twelve. His action isn't acceptable to rugby fans and the club needs to demonstrate that it doesn't wish to be associated with such behaviour.

Why, as a club, would you want to handicap yourself by imposing a further suspension on him?

Yes, by all means fine him, transfer list him, offer him in a swap to other clubs or whatever, but leaving yourself short and weakened squad-wise makes no sense, as it just penalises the rest of the players who are putting up a decent effort this season.

Re: Gil Dudson : Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:07 pm  

Grade E 4-6 matches hmm

Re: Gil Dudson : Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:22 pm  

I’m more in the fist-push rather than an actual punch. 4 to 6 games seem appropriate. He didn’t even hurt Johnstone with it.

Re: Gil Dudson : Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:30 pm  

Great, no Dudson or Philbin. At least Smithies has a ban and I assume Cooper will miss the game but we’re looking awfully thin at prop.

Re: Gil Dudson : Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:03 pm  

I'm disappointed that Cooper will miss out, could have been his last match at the HJ.

Regarding dudsons ban, I don't have a problem whatsoever how long it is, so long as if a saints player (or players from any other club, just saints have been getting preferential treatment for the same offences for ages) does similar they get the same length ban.

Re: Gil Dudson : Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:09 pm  

I'd be surprised if they didn't go for the full 6 based on the current hot topic of brain injuries. Hopefully the grade E is a recognition that it wasn't a full-blooded punch to the head, rather a cheap shot jab at the neck and shoulder (not that it makes it any less of a stupid thing to do). Looking at all these these potential grade D/E's for causing actual injuries though, it sort of makes a mockery of McGuire's grade F for using the term 'sp*z'.

Re: Gil Dudson : Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:15 pm  

easyWire wrote:

I'd be surprised if they didn't go for the full 6 based on the current hot topic of brain injuries. Hopefully the grade E is a recognition that it wasn't a full-blooded punch to the head, rather a cheap shot jab at the neck and shoulder (not that it makes it any less of a stupid thing to do). Looking at all these these potential grade D/E's for causing actual injuries though, it sort of makes a mockery of McGuire's grade F for using the term 'sp*z'.

Agree about the grading, McGuire gets 7 for use of a word and Knowles will get max 3 for potentially ending a player’s career, sorry that’s just nuts.

Re: Gil Dudson : Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:33 pm  

karetaker wrote:

Grade E 4-6 matches hmm

It wasn’t a real punch though… 4-6 is sufficient for what he actually did.

People making out like it was Flowers, when it was nothing close.

Re: Gil Dudson : Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:48 pm  

It makes not difference if Duds gets 4 games, 6 or 16…
Because he won’t be first pick when he is eligible by then anyway.
So there’s little point in being concerned what he gets. It won’t make a scrap of difference.