Re: Price era v last 4 years of TS : Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:00 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

There is no evidence that Simon Moran is a 'meddling owner', making signings that the coach doesn't want.

Didn't we only sign Andrew Johns after Mr Moran had a chance meeting with Johns' agent while having a day at Lord's watching the cricket?

Re: Price era v last 4 years of TS : Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:02 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

No one's SAID "meddling owner", but that rather goes against DDI's article involving Russell's quote, and Andrew Johns says hi.
I can't imagine Paul Cullen banging on Simon Moran's door in the summer of 2005, saying " If you're off to Lord's for the cricket, Si, make sure you have a word with Joey about coming to the HJ, and I'll leave you to sort out Graham Appo if you manage to get him"

Great minds thinking alike, Lefty ...

Re: Price era v last 4 years of TS : Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:23 pm  

The last 3/4 years of TS reign wasn't great to watch.

The entire Price reign was a struggle, bar a few great single performances.

so yea, its been 7/8 years of stagnation and frustration... we keep pumping the money out and signing the players... yet nothing really ever improves.... hopefully Powell can create a proper team.

Re: Price era v last 4 years of TS : Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:21 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

No one's SAID "meddling owner", but that rather goes against DDI's article involving Russell's quote, and Andrew Johns says hi.
I can't imagine Paul Cullen banging on Simon Moran's door in the summer of 2005, saying " If you're off to Lord's for the cricket, Si, make sure you have a word with Joey about coming to the HJ, and I'll leave you to sort out Graham Appo if you manage to get him"

I'm struggling to understand this Matty Russell story.

Are we saying that TS didn't want Russell but Simon Moran saw him as some kind of galactico signing that he wanted to have, so went over TS head. So how come TS played him as an ever-present, seemingly regardless of form, but as soon as TS left and Price came in, Russell got shipped out. Simon Moran was still here, so how come he didn't put his foot down and tell Price to keep Russell?

And is all this just based on Russell saying in a press interview that he spoke to Simon Moran?

As for Andrew Johns, Cullen talked about this on something recently, can't remember whether it was on the radio or Paul Wood/Micky Higham's youtube show. I think his side of it was that we were playing well and he was looking to the playoffs but he was worried about Nat Wood managing an injury and he asked if it was possible to get some extra cover, and Simon Moran said what about Andrew Johns, he was going to the cricket and could talk to Andrew Johns agent. And Cullen wasn't going to say no, because Johns was the best player in the world at the time. It's not like he was being forced to take Johns against his will.

Re: Price era v last 4 years of TS : Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:43 pm  

To paraphrase Humphrey Bogart

"In all the executive boxes, in all the cricket grounds, in all the world, Andrew Jonns' agent has to come into mine"


What were the chances?

Re: Price era v last 4 years of TS : Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:40 pm  

I'm not having a pop at Moran, far from it....but wasn't Burrell one of his ideas also? Could be completely wrong there but I very much doubt it was Price's.

Re: Price era v last 4 years of TS : Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:00 pm  

Burrell didn't work out, from a cap point of view it was a low risk signing. Neither the club nor player deserve to be vilified for it not working out IMO. The RFL make a rule where you get cap dispensation and we tried to use it to our advantage to get a slightly bigger squad. It's a shame it didn't work out really and I'd commend the club trying such moves in the future.

Re: Price era v last 4 years of TS : Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:17 pm  

I also thought it was worth a go but again we're fans....do you think Powell would've been up for this signing or would've not let it get off the ground?

Re: Price era v last 4 years of TS : Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:59 pm  

2009-2013 as supporters, our expectations went to an extremely high level

Re: Price era v last 4 years of TS : Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:19 pm  

I wonder what the spend comparison was between the Price era and TS last four years? One thing Price certainly can't say is he didn't have the resources to deliver a GF win.