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Re: Thoroughly out-coached : Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:09 pm  
In order of Merit (and anyone but Saints) this is my ranked preference.

Catalans
Hull KR
Saints
Leeds

I'd really wouldn't like Leeds to win it after how abysmal they were at the start of the season. They'd be the lest deserving team to win it ever IMO, it would rankle that much that I would genuinely rather Saints win it, at least they've been good this year.
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Re: Thoroughly out-coached : Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:27 pm  
It will be refreshing if Catalan break the Leeds/Wigan/Saints GF monopoly next week. However, would it be a total 'one-off', or will it inspire other 'nearly-men' clubs that they can win it too, leading to some more new names on the trophy over the next decade? The monopoly has been waning over the last 10 years anyway, so hopefully it won't be long before it breaks anyway. From 1996 to 2010, only Bradford, Leeds, Wigan and Saints had finished in 1st place. From 2011-2021, we've seen Wire (x2), Huddersfield, Castleford and Catalan finish 1st. We've also seen many more teams make the GF in Wire (x4), Castleford, Salford and now Catalan. Thoughts?
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Re: Thoroughly out-coached : Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:41 pm  
Those clubs need to start winning it really. I think new names on the trophy would be good for superleague as those clubs attract new sponsors and more fans etc.

There are tough times ahead IMO, if we do go to 10 and 10 then the playoffs can only be top 4 surely? That alone would mean the in season games count for more. I'd also like the points system reshuffling. Like they have in Union with losing bonus point for tighter games and tries scored bonus points. If its a draw 2 points each and if there is a winner in golden point then they get an extra point. Attacking rugby is then rewarded and teams would be less likely to just give up. Heaven forbid the game may actually become more attack minded and entertaining. For the first time in my life the other code is a better watch than league at club level.
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Re: Thoroughly out-coached : Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:03 pm  
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Totally out-coached there Pricey by the legend Sir Tony Smith. Not for the first time, but thankfully the last. What a mediocre 4 years that was. Onwards and upwards……#alwaysouryear


I'd take Smith over Price any day of the week, however, as last nights game showed, it's more difficult to beat a team who do not make 20+ errors in a game.
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Re: Thoroughly out-coached : Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:29 pm  
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I'd take Smith over Price any day of the week, however, as last nights game showed, it's more difficult to beat a team who do not make 20+ errors in a game.


Yep and I would take Smith over Price as well. But blimey our "fans" gave him & Agar so much stick towards the end. I cannot remember a positive word written on here about Agar unless it was a reference to his squash.
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Re: Thoroughly out-coached : Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:47 pm  
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Yep and I would take Smith over Price as well. But blimey our "fans" gave him & Agar so much stick towards the end. I cannot remember a positive word written on here about Agar unless it was a reference to his squash.
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That's probably because there wasn't much positive to say about Agar, during his time with us. Hull fans said exactly the same. Despite a CC Cup win, last year, Leeds fans aren't exactly enamoured with him.

(iirc) we jettisoned Willie Poching, when we were playing sensational rugby, to shoehorn Smith's mate into the coaching set up. Part of the start of our demise (again, imo)
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Re: Thoroughly out-coached : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:06 pm  
Didn't Agar and Smith get criticism because the results were poor?
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Re: Thoroughly out-coached : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:07 pm  
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(iirc) we jettisoned Willie Poching, when we were playing sensational rugby, to shoehorn Smith's mate into the coaching set up. Part of the start of our demise (again, imo)


I wondered what Poching had done wrong at the time. If it wasnt broke etc.
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Re: Thoroughly out-coached : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:51 pm  
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I wondered what Poching had done wrong at the time. If it wasnt broke etc.


Didn't like playing squash?
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Re: Thoroughly out-coached : Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:56 am  
20 20 hindsight is a wonderful thing for all the support I gave Smith and I do still like the guy and for all the bashing that Agar got from every angle I understand that at the end of their tenure Smith had almost given up was definitely in need of that break and it was Agar that held us together.

Yes it was a poor period for that management partnership but to simply say all the other clubs that Agar has coached think he's poor so it must be true is a little simplistic IMO
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