[Uncle Rico]

Re: Tonight’s game v Giants : Wed May 19, 2021 11:07 am  

DAG wrote:

Nor would us not winning the cup guarantee his sacking either.

I agree DAG and that was kind of my point, it's a non binary proposition which works both ways and added to that change doesn't always equate to an end to 'suffering'.

Some might say that as a club this is where we fall behind more ruthless competitors yet others are satisfied that a level of 'success' buys personnel time and good will. There is obviously a tipping point, as there was with Tony Smith and I've no doubt as there will be with Powell

Re: Tonight’s game v Giants : Wed May 19, 2021 11:13 am  

Uncle Rico wrote:

I may or may not agree LTS, and it may have been the right thing to do, but sacking Price following the Cup win would not have guaranteed success

Nothing guarantees success UR but you look now in hindsight it would have been the absolute right thing to do and I feel we've wasted and regressed in the two years since.

I've been watching us for 25+ years plus and I don't think I've ever felt as detached as I feel now watching this team and this coach. It's just soulless.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Tonight’s game v Giants : Wed May 19, 2021 11:30 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Nothing guarantees success UR but you look now in hindsight it would have been the absolute right thing to do and I feel we've wasted and regressed in the two years since.

I've been watching us for 25+ years plus and I don't think I've ever felt as detached as I feel now watching this team and this coach. It's just soulless.

I can't disagree TBH.

In the same way that I was probably one of the last on here in support of Price's predecessor. IMO your namesake earned the right to a later tipping point as we'd enjoyed some of our best times.

All conjecture and perhaps a little unfair but would you look back IF we lost in the Semi and a couple of inept performances in the League as good thing if it hastens Price's departure, OR would you prefer him to go out with his head held high and a trophy in the cabinet?

Re: Tonight’s game v Giants : Wed May 19, 2021 11:47 am  

Uncle Rico wrote:

I can't disagree TBH.

In the same way that I was probably one of the last on here in support of Price's predecessor. IMO your namesake earned the right to a later tipping point as we'd enjoyed some of our best times.

All conjecture and perhaps a little unfair but would you look back IF we lost in the Semi and a couple of inept performances in the League as good thing if it hastens Price's departure, OR would you prefer him to go out with his head held high and a trophy in the cabinet?

I would like to see us relieve Price of his duties now and let Briers/Henderson or Anderson have a go. I think if we did we'd have a chance of winning some silverware but as it is now I think we've no chance. Things have just gone too stale and we need to freshen things up. You even look on social media I don't think I've seen as many people wanting the same thing. I've not met/spoke to anyone who wants to keep Price this season and watch 5 drives and a kick for a few more months? And I've said before I've no vendetta against Price (although some think that), he's a good bloke, the players like him, I've no doubt he's trying his best but at the end of the day I just think he's not a very good coach and that's the thing that matters the most.

Re: Tonight’s game v Giants : Wed May 19, 2021 12:39 pm  

I think that's it LTS, he isn't a very good coach. We've failed pretty embarrassingly in the last 2 play offs, he's done a repetitive end of year summary and we've arguably regressed each year.

He seems vexed off when we lose, he looked utterly dejected at the final whistle on Monday but unfortunately for him, he's the one who's under the microscope.

It's nothing personal, i dont know the bloke, but this team is boring to watch and have no idea how to spend a set of six 20 yards out.

He should have gone last year, it's that simple. We have hub cap winner Paul Anderson in the back ground and an ex Head Coach in Henderson who's close to the first team, we were hardly in a desperate position. Look where Watson came from and look at him now.

Re: Tonight’s game v Giants : Wed May 19, 2021 1:43 pm  

Perhaps I’m playing devils advocate here a little, but while the blame universally seems to lie with Steve Price here, how culpable are the players as well?

Let’s not forget there’s a core of the squad still here that helped Tony Smith on his way with performances not too dissimilar to what we’re still seeing and have seen under Price’s tenure.

Attitude seems a big thing within this group and far too often we turn up with a poor attitude and it transfers into our performance on the field, like it did on Monday.

Re: Tonight’s game v Giants : Wed May 19, 2021 1:44 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

It was absolutely brilliant on the day. One of the best weekends I’ve had in years but we have suffered as a result of it absolutely no doubt about that.

I travelled with 2 Saints fans to Wembley & the stoney silent return journey was priceless.

Re: Tonight’s game v Giants : Wed May 19, 2021 1:54 pm  

The demise of Tony Smith was a painful affair ,whether he had genuinely needed a break from coaching or was pushed we will probably never know.

As for the quality of the team ,even the legendary teams of Saints ,Wigan & Leeds are not carrying the same quality in their playing squads as they were once famous for.

Re: Tonight’s game v Giants : Wed May 19, 2021 2:09 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

I would like to see us relieve Price of his duties now and let Briers/Henderson or Anderson have a go. I think if we did we'd have a chance of winning some silverware but as it is now I think we've no chance. Things have just gone too stale and we need to freshen things up. You even look on social media I don't think I've seen as many people wanting the same thing. I've not met/spoke to anyone who wants to keep Price this season and watch 5 drives and a kick for a few more months? And I've said before I've no vendetta against Price (although some think that), he's a good bloke, the players like him, I've no doubt he's trying his best but at the end of the day I just think he's not a very good coach and that's the thing that matters the most.

I cannot fathom this. Why would you write the same thing again and again ... and again?
Isn't there more to life. Obsessed or what?

Re: Tonight’s game v Giants : Wed May 19, 2021 3:11 pm  

Smiffy27 wrote:

I cannot fathom this. Why would you write the same thing again and again ... and again?
Isn't there more to life. Obsessed or what?

Sorry Steve. I was asked a question and I answered it.

It’s a Warrington Wolves forum. What would you rather I wrote about? The Greek Gods? If you don’t like it don’t come on here. Quite simple, even for you.