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O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:37 am  
THIS IS IT!

It's the last day of sales for both the X-Factor single and the challengers: Rage Against the Machine.

There's been a lot fo talk the last week, both positive and negative, about the campaign and no matter where you stand today is the decider.

As a member of the RATM camp I would like to encourage as many people as possible to BUY BUY BUY!

Over 900'000 people have joined the Facebook group but only 300'000 have bought the song. Obviously we can do much better and with the X-Factor single due to have a big day of sales today we need a big push to see us through. We're currently at number one - let's stay that way! :) I'd give anything to see the look on Simon's face if he doesn't get number one.

One thing that has struck me about this whole event is the arrogance of both SC and Cheryl Cole, calling it 'selfish' and 'mean', as if Joe is entitled to the number one simply for getting through a 12-week karaoke programme. What happened to artists working for years, writing music and hitting the pubs and clubs, to make it big? XF sums up what is very wrong with the music industry at the moment. We want the next big thing then drop then weeks later, there's no permanance in music. What happened to bands being together 10, 20, 30 years? You would never see a band like that form today.

There has been criticism about the choice of song, after all rap metal isn't to everyone's taste. It's certainly not mine, but you can't deny the integrity and soul in the music and lyrics. As Tom Morello stated, KITN was written in a small, industrial slum whilst The Climb was written by a bunch of over-paid songwriters (paraphrased from the Radio5Live interview). Even if KITN isn't to your taste I urge you to buy it anyway, simply to help make a statement that the X-Factor is a karaoke competition and it's products are not 'artists'. Plus for 29p it's a small price to pay to see that smug smiles wiped from Simon Cowell's face :D

Of course there has also been big criticism of the Sony angle. Detractors have said that ultimately Simon Cowell wins as both acts are signed to Sony so our campaign is mis-guided. This is untrue. Joe Mc is signed to SyCo, Simon's own label which is owned by Sony. RATM are signed to Epic Records which are also owned by Sony. Channel 4 contacted the company and were told that even though tey owened both labels, Simon Cowell recieved no profits from RATM as they were part of seperate companies. Yes Sony is probably making a nice profit from all this but if you go high enough all music is owned by a few so it's irrelevant. This campaign was never about protesting record companies, it was about protesting XF's stranglehold on the charts.

As a big boost Rage Against the Machine have announced they will perform a free victory gig in the UK should they take the number one slot. Tom Morello on Twitter stated: RAGE ANNOUNCE THEY WILL PLAY MASSIVE FREE VICTORY GIG IN UK IF "KILLING IN THE NAME" IS NUMBER ONE XMAS SINGLE!!! Let's go!!!

Of course there's also the charity angle: the FB group have been campaigning for Shelter and the current total stands at ££52,822.63. That's a phonomenal amount for a 'selfish' and 'miserable' group who wouldn't achieve anything. RATM have also said that the proceeds they get from this campaign (through song sales) will go partly to Shelter and partly to a charity that fund music for poor kids in the UK. A very noble gesture.

Finally all you need is the info to know how to help:

Price Comparison site - http://bit.ly/comparedownloadprices

--Buy 1 for yourself, and maximum another 2 as a 'gift' for someone--

iTUNES - 99p - track #2 (click on 'view in itunes' on the right)
http://bit.ly/ratm-itunes

PLAY.COM - 65p - it's the only track on the page
http://bit.ly/ratm-play

7DIGITAL - 50p - track #2
http://bit.ly/rage-7digital

HMV.COM - 79p (careful - this is track #1)
http://bit.ly/ratm-hmv

TUNETRIBE - 49P - track #2 - LIVE version (yes it counts)
http://bit.ly/ratm-tunetribe
or
http://bit.ly/rage-tunetribe (Studio Version)

TESCO DIGITAL - 67p - track #2
http://bit.ly/ratm-tesco

WE7 - £1.07p - track #2
http://bit.ly/ratm-we7

You can also get it from Amazon for 29p. There is a method of getting £4 free credit though the Nokia Ovi Player, which you can use to download the track so it won't cost anything. Details here: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2228594104&topic=14614

** REMEMBER **
Do not buy any more than 3 copies per vendor, I'd be safe and stick with 2 to be honest. Bulk-buying is flagged and not included.

Find the FB group here: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=2228594104
The JustGiving Shelter page here: http://www.justgiving.com/ratm4xmas
THIS IS IT!

It's the last day of sales for both the X-Factor single and the challengers: Rage Against the Machine.

There's been a lot fo talk the last week, both positive and negative, about the campaign and no matter where you stand today is the decider.

As a member of the RATM camp I would like to encourage as many people as possible to BUY BUY BUY!

Over 900'000 people have joined the Facebook group but only 300'000 have bought the song. Obviously we can do much better and with the X-Factor single due to have a big day of sales today we need a big push to see us through. We're currently at number one - let's stay that way! :) I'd give anything to see the look on Simon's face if he doesn't get number one.

One thing that has struck me about this whole event is the arrogance of both SC and Cheryl Cole, calling it 'selfish' and 'mean', as if Joe is entitled to the number one simply for getting through a 12-week karaoke programme. What happened to artists working for years, writing music and hitting the pubs and clubs, to make it big? XF sums up what is very wrong with the music industry at the moment. We want the next big thing then drop then weeks later, there's no permanance in music. What happened to bands being together 10, 20, 30 years? You would never see a band like that form today.

There has been criticism about the choice of song, after all rap metal isn't to everyone's taste. It's certainly not mine, but you can't deny the integrity and soul in the music and lyrics. As Tom Morello stated, KITN was written in a small, industrial slum whilst The Climb was written by a bunch of over-paid songwriters (paraphrased from the Radio5Live interview). Even if KITN isn't to your taste I urge you to buy it anyway, simply to help make a statement that the X-Factor is a karaoke competition and it's products are not 'artists'. Plus for 29p it's a small price to pay to see that smug smiles wiped from Simon Cowell's face :D

Of course there has also been big criticism of the Sony angle. Detractors have said that ultimately Simon Cowell wins as both acts are signed to Sony so our campaign is mis-guided. This is untrue. Joe Mc is signed to SyCo, Simon's own label which is owned by Sony. RATM are signed to Epic Records which are also owned by Sony. Channel 4 contacted the company and were told that even though tey owened both labels, Simon Cowell recieved no profits from RATM as they were part of seperate companies. Yes Sony is probably making a nice profit from all this but if you go high enough all music is owned by a few so it's irrelevant. This campaign was never about protesting record companies, it was about protesting XF's stranglehold on the charts.

As a big boost Rage Against the Machine have announced they will perform a free victory gig in the UK should they take the number one slot. Tom Morello on Twitter stated: RAGE ANNOUNCE THEY WILL PLAY MASSIVE FREE VICTORY GIG IN UK IF "KILLING IN THE NAME" IS NUMBER ONE XMAS SINGLE!!! Let's go!!!

Of course there's also the charity angle: the FB group have been campaigning for Shelter and the current total stands at ££52,822.63. That's a phonomenal amount for a 'selfish' and 'miserable' group who wouldn't achieve anything. RATM have also said that the proceeds they get from this campaign (through song sales) will go partly to Shelter and partly to a charity that fund music for poor kids in the UK. A very noble gesture.

Finally all you need is the info to know how to help:

Price Comparison site - http://bit.ly/comparedownloadprices

--Buy 1 for yourself, and maximum another 2 as a 'gift' for someone--

iTUNES - 99p - track #2 (click on 'view in itunes' on the right)
http://bit.ly/ratm-itunes

PLAY.COM - 65p - it's the only track on the page
http://bit.ly/ratm-play

7DIGITAL - 50p - track #2
http://bit.ly/rage-7digital

HMV.COM - 79p (careful - this is track #1)
http://bit.ly/ratm-hmv

TUNETRIBE - 49P - track #2 - LIVE version (yes it counts)
http://bit.ly/ratm-tunetribe
or
http://bit.ly/rage-tunetribe (Studio Version)

TESCO DIGITAL - 67p - track #2
http://bit.ly/ratm-tesco

WE7 - £1.07p - track #2
http://bit.ly/ratm-we7

You can also get it from Amazon for 29p. There is a method of getting £4 free credit though the Nokia Ovi Player, which you can use to download the track so it won't cost anything. Details here: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2228594104&topic=14614

** REMEMBER **
Do not buy any more than 3 copies per vendor, I'd be safe and stick with 2 to be honest. Bulk-buying is flagged and not included.

Find the FB group here: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=2228594104
The JustGiving Shelter page here: http://www.justgiving.com/ratm4xmas
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Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:11 am  
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Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:22 am  
You've done your homework! But, even if RATM do make it to number one, the X-Factor single won't sell any less, Rage would've just sold more, as their audiences aren't really the same. I can't see people browsing iTunes, wanting the XF single and changing their mind! The XF single is still going to make the same money isn't it?
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Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:39 am  
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You've done your homework! But, even if RATM do make it to number one, the X-Factor single won't sell any less, Rage would've just sold more, as their audiences aren't really the same. I can't see people browsing iTunes, wanting the XF single and changing their mind! The XF single is still going to make the same money isn't it?



No, it's easy to copy & paste

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Carbon Glacier wrote:
You've done your homework! But, even if RATM do make it to number one, the X-Factor single won't sell any less, Rage would've just sold more, as their audiences aren't really the same. I can't see people browsing iTunes, wanting the XF single and changing their mind! The XF single is still going to make the same money isn't it?



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Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:55 am  
I agree Rugbychick.

The point of the campaign is to show the youth of today that the future of music [and culture in general ] is in their hands not Cowell and his cronies.I strongly feel that this protest could help kick start what is needed.

Reclaim the Christmas no 1 spot from corporate greed,download RATM Killing in the name.

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Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:07 pm  
The whole thing is a joke. i for one am not gonna buy ratm or x factor rubbish. number one simpley does not matter to me.. its about my own personal taste. Im not a sheep.
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Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:49 pm  
i feel sorry for cliff richard,cowell has sent him hurtling into long overdue retirement now he has boxed xmas off,nothing against ratm,i have seen them live albeit a good few years ago,this campaign would have had more credence if they would have chose a really cheesy crimbo number to pitt against the little smiler.
i'm not really arsed though because the last single i bought was years ago.
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Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:59 pm  
Who cares?????....Considering that the singles chart died the day that the 7 inch vinyl was done away with, I don't see the point in joining in with what is basically a media driven campaign, which is just as cynical as any X Factor puppet having a pointless 'number 1'.

The daft thing is that all this silly battle does is keep Cowell & his cronies in the limelight for longer than they should be....The only actual way to defeat Cowell would be to simply ignore him and his pointless artists, instead of keeping them in the headlines with more tedious nonsense.
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Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:08 pm  
Irrelevant. Does anyone really care ( and within that I include the billionaire Simon Cowell) ?
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Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:16 pm  
One thing that has struck me about this whole event is the arrogance of both SC and Cheryl Cole, calling it 'selfish' and 'mean', as if Joe is entitled to the number one simply for getting through a 12-week karaoke programme. What happened to artists working for years, writing music and hitting the pubs and clubs, to make it big? XF sums up what is very wrong with the music industry at the moment. We want the next big thing then drop then weeks later, there's no permanance in music. What happened to bands being together 10, 20, 30 years? You would never see a band like that form today.


That paragraph is the reason i despise X Factor...The show is just a money making machine now..
I'm not really a big fan of RATM but i'd honestly settle for anything other than X Factor monopolising the Crimbo Number 1
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