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Who would you release if it were possible ? : Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:36 am  
Lets say you were Tony Smith, in an ideal world where contracts were not an issue who would you release ?

These are the players i would let go:

Lee Briers
Michael Monaghan
Matt King
Louis Anderson
Vinnie Anderson
Paul Wood
Paul Rauhihi
Jon Clarke
Steve Pickersgill
Chris Bridge
Chris Hicks
Paul Johnson
Chris Riley
Simon Grix

If we could find takers for both Monaghan and King then in my opinion we would be getting out of a nightmare situation, the money could be far better spent, it will probably be Lee Briers last season so that one speaks for itself and probably the same with Chris Hicks. Both Anderson`s for me need releasing for differing reasons, Paul Wood has been at the club for a long time but he`s never really fulfilled the early promise of turning into something Sam Burgess like, he`s suffered from a lot of problems with his shoulder and i can`t see him really improving as a player at this stage of his career.

Chris Bridge is one of them talents that is an enigma that will probably not fulfil all the promise mainly because of his rumoured attitude problems, he breaks down injured far too often as well and that isn`t good for the cohesian of any squad.

Simon Grix is another that probably won`t kick on and fulfill his potential due to having a very delicate body that seems to break down more often than the Trotters van.

Paul Johnson is another player thats not good for overall squad cohesian, your just waiting for him to break down injured at any moment, at his peak he was a top class 2nd rower, these days he`s just a poor mans Lee Gilmore that lacks lacks pace and is an injury waiting to happen.

Jon Clarke, he`s the enigma that divides fans opinions. Personally i think everything he does is far too slow and predictable, he will never be the type of player that will get the oppositions defence thinking whats he going to do next, he`s a grafter and little else in my opinion.

Steve Pickersgill, i just don`t think he has it to make a difference.

Chris Riley, i like his attitude and the club obviously means a lot to him, i just don`t think he will ever be the calibre of a Lee Smith where he can play in various positions in the backline and look quality and solid, the errors with him seem to be stacking up.

Personally i would let Kevin Penny go out on loan and take it from there, thats just my opinion based on his overall performances for us, you can never be too confident with him as you just feel that their is a blunder waiting around the next corner.
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: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:49 am  
Briers
Monaghan
Pickersgill
Rauhihi
Louis
Vinnie


Wouldn't want to release too many from the core of the team
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: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:50 am  
Agree with most of the players you'd let go except maybe riley and bridge
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Rob Wire wrote:
Lets say you were Tony Smith, in an ideal world where contracts were not an issue who would you release ?

These are the players i would let go:

Lee Briers
Michael Monaghan
Matt King
Louis Anderson
Vinnie Anderson
Paul Wood
Jon Clarke
Steve Pickersgill
Chris Bridge
Chris Hicks
Paul Johnson
Chris Riley
Simon Grix


:lol: :lol: surely we have to be realistic about this, even in an ideal world we couldn't get rid of 13 players.

Briers.
Monaghan.
King.

Those 3 would do for me.
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: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:55 am  
Briars
Johnson
Vinny & Louie Anderson
Bridge
Clarke

I would keep monaghan if he played in his proper position of hooker.
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lee briers is a nice person whoooo luck at lee forming a scrum the wire bum banger


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: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:57 am  
Monaghan
V.Anderson
Pickersgill

And if any of the following were to get another long-term injury, then I would release them:

Grix
Bridge
L.Anderson
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: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:57 am  
George Best wrote:
Briers
Johnson
Vinnie & Louis Anderson
Bridge
Clarke

I would keep monaghan if he played in his proper position of hooker.


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Rob Wire wrote:
Lets say you were Tony Smith, in an ideal world where contracts were not an issue who would you release ?

These are the players i would let go:

Lee Briers
Michael Monaghan
Matt King
Louis Anderson
Vinnie Anderson
Paul Wood
Paul Rauhihi
Jon Clarke




everyone u menshioned exept the andersons hicks and reily
Steve Pickersgill
Chris Bridge
Chris Hicks
Paul Johnson
Chris Riley
Simon Grix

If we could find takers for both Monaghan and King then in my opinion we would be getting out of a nightmare situation, we could then do a lot better with the money, it will probably be Lee Briers last season so that one speaks for itself and i would think the same with Chris Hicks. Both Anderson`s for me need releasing for different reasons, Paul Wood has been at the club for a long time but he`s never really fulfilled the early promise of turning into something Sam Burgess like, he has suffered from a lot of problems with his shoulder and i can`t see him really improving as a player at this stage in his career.

Chris Bridge is one of them talents that will never seem to kick on to the next level mainly because of his rumoured attitude problems, he breaks down injured far too often as well and that isn`t good for the cohesian of the squad.

Simon Grix is another that probably won`t kick and fulfill his promise due to having a very delicate body that seems to break down more often than the Trotters van.

Paul Johnson is another player thats not a good player to have for overall squad cohesian, your just waiting for him to break down at any minute, at his peak he was a top class 2nd rower, these days he`s a poor mans Lee Gilmore where he lacks pace and is an injury waiting to happen.

Jon Clarke, he is the enigma that devides fans opinions. Personally i think everything he does is too slow and predictable, he will never be the type of p[layer that will get the oppositions defence thinking whats he going to do next, he`s a grafter and little else in my opinion.

Steve Pickersgill, i just don`t think he has it to make a difference to us.

Chris Riley, i like his attitude and the club obviously means a lot to him, i just don`t think he will ever be the calibre of a Lee Smith where he can play in various positions in the backline and look quality and solid, the errors with him seem to be stacking up.

Personally i would let Kevin Penny go out on loan and take it from there, thats just my opinion based on his overall performances for us, you can never be too confident with him as you just feel that their is a blunder waiting around the next corner.
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Inside Knowledge wrote:
:lol: :lol: surely we have to be realistic about this, even in an ideal world we couldn't get rid of 13 players.


I`m being very realistic, over half this squad are not good enough to turn us into a club that is consistently appearing in finals. Ive added Paul Rauhihi to the list as i had overlooked him and forgot it was his last year.
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: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:05 am  
There will be a massive clear out come the end of this season.

It will be nice to see tonie bringing in his own men including coaching staff and conditioner etc.

I too cant believe that jimmie lowes and that nigel hawthorne bloke are still employed at the club. It is clear that they made a monumental balls up of the pre season just gone.
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