Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:49 pm  

Gazwire wrote:

I'd say he should be given to at least the end of the season to turn things around. If it's still like this around the playoff time, then I would support the club if they wished to change manager. I think, at this point, he has just about enough credit in the bank.

I'm also getting a bit concerned with the performances of Paul Vaughan who doesn't seem the same. Big game next week.

Maybe don’t flog Vaughan for 60 mins when he’s clearly having a stinker then? Would you have persisted with him today as a coach?

Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:49 pm  

Yes, big game next week but also a game against a poor Cas team and an opportunity for a few kicks up backsides.

Drop Dufty, Thewlis to FB, Russell to wing
If Drinkwater is back, drop Matautia

Won't happen, but it should.

Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:53 pm  

morrisseyisawire wrote:

Yes, big game next week but also a game against a poor Cas team and an opportunity for a few kicks up backsides.

Drop Dufty, Thewlis to FB, Russell to wing
If Drinkwater is back, drop Matautia

Won't happen, but it should.

And drop Ratchford as well, permanently.

Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:55 pm  

morrisseyisawire wrote:

Yes, big game next week but also a game against a poor Cas team and an opportunity for a few kicks up backsides.

Drop Dufty, Thewlis to FB, Russell to wing
If Drinkwater is back, drop Matautia

Won't happen, but it should.

Mata'utia should be out, wrench wasn't good today but he needs to play to develop. I don't personally believe he has shown that he will be good enough so it's sink or swim. Dufty was better today, ashton and thewlis are our best wingers bringing Russell in only weakens us IMO, he's back up and nothing more. In fact if Powell drops thewlis for Russell ever again, I'm straight in the Powell out camp, I don't have the patience for that sort of decision making anymore.

Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:55 pm  

Gazwire wrote:

I'd say he should be given to at least the end of the season to turn things around. If it's still like this around the playoff time, then I would support the club if they wished to change manager. I think, at this point, he has just about enough credit in the bank.

I'm also getting a bit concerned with the performances of Paul Vaughan who doesn't seem the same. Big game next week.

Fair enough. Not sure where the credit in the bank comes from, but that’s your thoughts.

For me, I convinced myself that I had been wrong about 2022 on the strength of a really fast start. But looking back, Leeds we’re poor, Huddersfield appear to be doing what we did last year, Salford almost got us and probably would have but for the sin bin, and we had Leigh and Hull either side of a huge win against an under strength Catalan team, which remains the stand out. Leigh and Hull I think we got at the right time as they have both improved massively since. You can only play the cards that you are dealt, but I’m concerned that there may have been an overvaluation of the starting form and the reality is biting.

I’m not overly concerned with Vaughan. His stats have generally proved me wrong when I thought he had a quiet game. He’s still out best forward by a distance.

Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:56 pm  

Does Clarke deserve to be dropped now his head is at St Helens????

Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:00 pm  

ratticusfinch wrote:

Maybe don’t flog Vaughan for 60 mins when he’s clearly having a stinker then? Would you have persisted with him today as a coach?

Most had a stinker so I wouldn't have subbed him off anymore than anyone else. If he was the only one then yes possibly, but then he wouldn't have had chance to make amends (which he didn't really do anyway). I agree though that in general he needs to be rested more in games for longevity reasons.

Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:02 pm  

Thewliss should be given the No1 jersey now. I think we can all accept mistakes due to inexperience.

Saints youngsters really give 100% when selected because if they play well they are playing next week even if a star is returning they get rewarded our know as soon as player X is back they are dropped. I fell there's no real competition for places at Warrington.

Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:02 pm  

Rommel wrote:

Does Clarke deserve to be dropped now his head is at St Helens????

Yes.

Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:03 pm  

CW8 wrote:

Mata'utia should be out, wrench wasn't good today but he needs to play to develop. I don't personally believe he has shown that he will be good enough so it's sink or swim. Dufty was better today, ashton and thewlis are our best wingers bringing Russell in only weakens us IMO, he's back up and nothing more. In fact if Powell drops thewlis for Russell ever again, I'm straight in the Powell out camp, I don't have the patience for that sort of decision making anymore.

Dufty was better, really? Granted he didn't knock on twice in our own 25 this week but I've seen Lord Lucan make more eye catching appearences than Dufty did today.