Re: Today’s match v Saints. : Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:08 pm  

There's some cracking posts on redvee including this one which I think's my favourite:

I can imagine the conversation during last week:

Frayssinous: "Paul I have a brilliant plan for the game against Warrington"
Wellens: "Go on""
Frayssinous: "How about we utilise five one-up drives and a crap kick on every set?"
Wellens: "But we've tried that every game so far this season and it's failed miserably?"
Frayssinous: "Exactly, Warrington won't expect us to be using it again"
Wellens: "Great thinking, let's go with that"

Re: Today’s match v Saints. : Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:55 pm  

We should mock St Helens at our peril. Even if this is one of their worst seasons they are likely to finish in the top 6. wasnt so long ago we were sweating on beating tolouse at home to stay in the league.

Re: Today’s match v Saints. : Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:01 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

If someone goes down with a whiplash type tackle they can't take them off straightaway, they have to go through the process to make sure they've not got any spinal/neurological issues,

You're ALWAYS gonna have that stoppage with that type of suspected injury.

Agree. May as well send them off for 10 mins, than let them lie down for ten while we have to endure 10 mins of the same replay.

Re: Today’s match v Saints. : Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:08 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

We should mock St Helens at our peril. Even if this is one of their worst seasons they are likely to finish in the top 6. wasnt so long ago we were sweating on beating tolouse at home to stay in the league.

I agree it’s not wise to mock Saints…..bloody fun though !

Re: Today’s match v Saints. : Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:00 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

Play-off rugby is where intensity lifts and the defence comes to the fore.
Lower scoring games, and defence wins.

I like everything Sam and his support have gone about our season. Minus the huge blip at Wembley and the after effects. Also the fatigue blip vs KR at home.

Constantly evolving and building to shape for one thing, which Sam won’t say.

None of the top 3 will have an easier chance to win a GF however all 3 are in a different mini league to the rest, who are playing it out for place money. Imo.

This is a type of team I don’t think I’ve ever seen at Warrington before. No ‘bad apples’ no player egos. Grit and endurance that typically isn’t the Warrington thing..,,

And I love it.

That couldn't be more untrue.

The team finishing 3rd has to play one more game than the teams 1st and 2nd - By definition, it will therefore be harder to win it. In theory, Warrington could have to go through St Helens, Hull KR and Wigan to win it...

Additionally, one of the top 2 could get an easier run dependent on how the first round of play offs go.

Re: Today’s match v Saints. : Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:19 am  

Would have preferred to play the Pies in the semi-finals and get that game out of the way, win or lose.

Hull KR losing on Friday night now means that it is highly unlikely we will play Wigan until the Final (If we get there)

A Wire v Hull KR final would have much better for the games` profile with the current monopoly of only a few clubs winning the Grand Final.

With both clubs odds on to finish 2nd & 3rd, they are destined to play each other in the semi-finals unfortunately.

Re: Today’s match v Saints. : Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:57 am  

nathan_rugby wrote:

That couldn't be more untrue.

The team finishing 3rd has to play one more game than the teams 1st and 2nd - By definition, it will therefore be harder to win it. In theory, Warrington could have to go through St Helens, Hull KR and Wigan to win it...

Additionally, one of the top 2 could get an easier run dependent on how the first round of play offs go.

“Untrue�?
Or not in your opinion!

The key word in your reply is “could� x2, and the phrase “in theory� which indicates you have nothing to prove it’s untrue.

While the key acronym in my post is “imo� which means, I never said it was a fact or truth, but my opinion.

And I stand by my “imo� because your post ‘couldn't be more untrue’ or farther from my changing my mind.

Re: Today’s match v Saints. : Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:26 am  

It's clearly statistically more unlikely to win 3 games in a row than two so long as the chance of winning the 1st game is < 100%. We had a real chance at top 2 and, unfortunately for us, we didn't take it. Being honest I think Wigan and Hull KR are the stronger sides over the course of the season.

Two years or so ago (11/8/2022) we were tussling for 11th in the league. That is one turnaround.

If we can win ONE playoff game that is more than we have done since 2018.

Re: Today’s match v Saints. : Tue Sep 10, 2024 12:29 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

“Untrue�?
Or not in your opinion!

The key word in your reply is “could� x2, and the phrase “in theory� which indicates you have nothing to prove it’s untrue.

While the key acronym in my post is “imo� which means, I never said it was a fact or truth, but my opinion.

And I stand by my “imo� because your post ‘couldn't be more untrue’ or farther from my changing my mind.

What are you talking about? My use of could and in theory are because I cannot be certain and there are multiple scenarios.

Statistically speaking you are completely wrong. Even when you ignore statistics you are wrong.

You honestly think Warrington have a 33.33% chance of winning the grand final? Despite finishing 3rd, having never won it before and having to play 1 extra game than the teams finishing 1st or 2nd?

The bookies completely disagree also.
Wigan 10/11
Hull KR 11/4
Warrington 4/1

Re: Today’s match v Saints. : Tue Sep 10, 2024 12:30 pm  

Boss Hog wrote:

Would have preferred to play the Pies in the semi-finals and get that game out of the way, win or lose.

Hull KR losing on Friday night now means that it is highly unlikely we will play Wigan until the Final (If we get there)

A Wire v Hull KR final would have much better for the games` profile with the current monopoly of only a few clubs winning the Grand Final.

With both clubs odds on to finish 2nd & 3rd, they are destined to play each other in the semi-finals unfortunately.

Really?

How will the games profile improve in that scenario?