Re: Rumours : Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:35 pm  

sir adrian morley wrote:

whos atkinson when did we sign him and where from

Where have you been, he was our best player last year.......oh i get it he means Atkins, but that Atkinson was good aswell, just didnt see much of him

Re: Rumours : Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:58 pm  

Irish Wire wrote:

I have been told by a source close to Dec Patton that he was very much limited by Tony Smith into what he could try on the field and was kept very much under orders.

Also I believe the relationship between them could be described as 'strained.'

New coach might give him his head and we see a new Dec Patton.

Was thinking about this earlier and how refreshing it might be for Price to say to Patton - “go out and try something and play with confidence”. Long was rubbish at the start of his career at Wigan then he moved to Saints and Millward gave him the freedom to be cocky and it paid dividends. Not saying by any means that Patton will emulate that but would love to see him given the chance.

Re: Rumours : Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:05 pm  

Patton = average

If he wasn't a Warrington lad he wouldn't be near the team. Same Penny. Same Riley.

Re: Rumours : Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:12 pm  

I like patton, he has good vision and timing of a pass.,my only real reservation about him is that he doesn't get involved enough, maybe that was instruction, maybe not. I hope he gets a chance under price.

Re: Rumours : Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:51 pm  

moving on... wrote:

How can you possibly say that after only one full season? and not only that but his debut season behind a shambles of a forward pack?

One season (Our worst season for a long long time) and he isn't good enough! This is why teams like Wigan and Leeds' academys look the dogs knackers, because they stick with their young lads. Not us. We put a young lad behind 6 turnstiles and expect him to run round putting people in for hat-tricks

Jesus wept.

Wigan and Leeds academies produce better players than us, and the lads they stick with in the first team are good. The ones they persist with have performed at a high level from early on. Many others play a few games and get shipped out, sometimes to clubs like Warrington.

I wonder if guys like Patton, Rhys Evans, Matty Blythe etc would have been given more first team opportunities at Wigan or Leeds than with us?

Re: Rumours : Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:41 pm  

Gaz Hock anyone....?? Wasn't he nailed on as a wire at some stage..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41604478

Gaz Hock anyone....?? Wasn't he nailed on as a wire at some stage..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41604478

Re: Rumours : Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:02 am  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Wigan and Leeds academies produce better players than us, and the lads they stick with in the first team are good. The ones they persist with have performed at a high level from early on. Many others play a few games and get shipped out, sometimes to clubs like Warrington.

I wonder if guys like Patton, Rhys Evans, Matty Blythe etc would have been given more first team opportunities at Wigan or Leeds than with us?

I understand your point but there’s a fair few Warrington products that have possessed the raw talent but ended up looking average after a few seasons in the first team. You could equally argue that whilst Leeds and Wigan have bettter young players they also have better coaches developing the young talent. There’s nothing THAT special about Marshall, Davies or Gildart but they’ve ended up as solid first teamers at a young age and better than what we have. I wonder how far they would have got here? Remember we paid a big fee for Lineham who isn’t half the winger Davies or Marshall are.

Re: Rumours : Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:39 am  

the flying biscuit wrote: Gaz Hock anyone....?? Wasn't he nailed on as a wire at some stage..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41604478 Hopefully Price has heard enough about him to say "no ta"

the flying biscuit wrote: Gaz Hock anyone....?? Wasn't he nailed on as a wire at some stage..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41604478 Hopefully Price has heard enough about him to say "no ta"

Re: Rumours : Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:42 am  

the flying biscuit wrote: Gaz Hock anyone....?? Wasn't he nailed on as a wire at some stage..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41604478 I think the days of us being a ‘half-way house’ for players with issues is probably behind us. Even though sometimes the risk has paid off in the short-term (Sandow). With that in mind, and to lighten the mood in a miserable period let’s try and create a ‘touch at your own risk’ 13 match day team. I’ll start us off: 1) FB: Zak Hardaker 2) RW: Justin Carney 3) RC: Ben Barba 4) LC: Martin Gleeson 5) LW: John Hopoate 6) SO: Sean Long 7) SH: Todd Carney PR: Ryan Bailey 9) HK: Mickey Macilorum? 10) PR: ? 11) SR: Nate Myles 12) SR: ? 13) LF: Gareth Hock

the flying biscuit wrote: Gaz Hock anyone....?? Wasn't he nailed on as a wire at some stage..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41604478 I think the days of us being a ‘half-way house’ for players with issues is probably behind us. Even though sometimes the risk has paid off in the short-term (Sandow). With that in mind, and to lighten the mood in a miserable period let’s try and create a ‘touch at your own risk’ 13 match day team. I’ll start us off: 1) FB: Zak Hardaker 2) RW: Justin Carney 3) RC: Ben Barba 4) LC: Martin Gleeson 5) LW: John Hopoate 6) SO: Sean Long 7) SH: Todd Carney PR: Ryan Bailey 9) HK: Mickey Macilorum? 10) PR: ? 11) SR: Nate Myles 12) SR: ? 13) LF: Gareth Hock

Re: Rumours : Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:48 am  

easyWire wrote:

I think the days of us being a ‘half-way house’ for players with issues is probably behind us. Even though sometimes the risk has paid off in the short-term (Sandow).

With that in mind, and to lighten the mood in a miserable period let’s try and create a ‘touch at your own risk’ 13 match day team. I’ll start us off:

1) FB: Zak Hardaker
2) RW: Justin Carney
3) RC: Ben Barba
4) LC: Martin Gleeson
5) LW: John Hopoate
6) SO: Sean Long
7) SH: Todd Carney
PR: Ryan Bailey
9) HK: Mickey Macilorum?
10) PR: ?
11) SR: Nate Myles
12) SR: ?
13) LF: Gareth Hock

Long had his moments but he also spent most of his career being a top player and winning trophies. I don't begrudge him a spot in this team but I would have Rangi Chase ahead of him for self-destruction.

Prop: pre-Wire Adrian Morley?