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| Quote Ian 77 Redux="Ian 77 Redux"Your posts are making even less sense than usual which in itself is impressive. I have to ask; are you drunk?
I've not been impressed with Cross when I've seen him but there is no doubt he is going to be a) joining a better team and b) under a better coach. He's probably an upgrade on Fielden so fair play to them.'"
Maybe he has good 'bounce-up-ability'.
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| Quote twosevenzero="twosevenzero"One of those has got to be Solomona !!!!'"
He looks like he has all 3 of them under his Shirt!
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| Pies have that many overseas players now they are virtually a team of NRL ex-pats
Cheating the cap rules yet again ! Don't know why the RFL bother if they're not going to enforce it 
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| Quote PADDERS="PADDERS"Pies have that many overseas players now they are virtually a team of NRL ex-pats
Cheating the cap rules yet again ! Don't know why the RFL bother if they're not going to enforce it
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You don't need to worry, the RFL are having a real close look at the Cap and who's doing what.
You may want to start looking a little closer to home though on who should be worried
As for cheating the Overseas players rules etc, I'm pretty confident we'll have checked that he fits in within the Rules?
If not I'm sure someone will spot it 
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| Don't be daft Padders, they're all homegrown, their team is only ever homegrown with a couple of NRL players for good measure.
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| Quote twosevenzero="twosevenzero"One of those has got to be Solomona !!!!'"
The 2 at the back are definately Fat Feka 
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| Quote PADDERS="PADDERS"Pies have that many overseas players now they are virtually a team of NRL ex-pats
Cheating the cap rules yet again ! Don't know why the RFL bother if they're not going to enforce it
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The rest of the super league have been saying the same about your team for the last 2 or 3 seasons.
I'm sure if anyone is cheating then it will get found out eventually, although I very much doubt anyone is.
Calm down dear.
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| The best part of this deal is that irritating gonad's complete U turn on his his appraisal of Cross from the rumour thread a while back and the Offical thread today.
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Quote Odemwingie="Odemwingie"So overated... no idea how he played Origin from what I have seen of him in this country. His face was a picture all through our comeback at Leeds as well.
I wonder what Leeds have planned letting these players go... they seem to be going right down hill.
Fielden is our best prop on form and he is miles better than Cross. Coley proved on friday just how good he really is for us. Lima works so hard and is starting to look a class singing. Mossop has been our most improved player and he came through our academy... wouldn't leave him out for any overseas prop right now... Prescott is also improved and home grown.
We just don't need him. If they get injured we have Hock and O'Carroll to fill in.'"
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Quote Odemwingie="Odemwingie"That just baffles me. Anybody who has played at the highest level like he has can do a job in any super league side even if it is just off the bench or rotation.
I must say I am very excited about this signing now, when Leeds first signed him I thought he would be better than Lima and was pretty jealous. Clearly the coaching at Leeds and the attitude of their staff has not helped him. We have a class player on our hands, I hope our coaching staff can get him firing on all cylinders!
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you couldn't make it up.
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| Quote keithcun="keithcun"The best part of this deal is that irritating gonad's complete U turn on his his appraisal of Cross from the rumour thread a while back and the Offical thread today.
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Beautiful. Just beautiful.
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| Quote keithcun="keithcun"The best part of this deal is that irritating gonad's complete U turn on his his appraisal of Cross from the rumour thread a while back and the Offical thread today.
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Great work, one of the posts of the year! 
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| That is a fail. I actually thought when reading the post today that I couldn't remember many people at all thinking he was a good signing for Leeds.
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| Quote keithcun="keithcun"The best part of this deal is that irritating gonad's complete U turn on his his appraisal of Cross from the rumour thread a while back and the Offical thread today.
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That's Saddened!-esque backpeddling there
What a fool!
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| It's a bigger U-turn than one of "Call me Dave" Cameron's
Holdmywinkie in Berk shocker
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| Quote keithcun="keithcun"The best part of this deal is that irritating gonad's complete U turn on his his appraisal of Cross from the rumour thread a while back and the Offical thread today.
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I totally accept it. But if you read my other posts instead of picking ones out... you will see that we didn't need a prop at the time.. Prescott and Coley were still fit and I also accept that I was looking at his time in Leeds rather than the NRL.
Or is it just too radical that I have changed my view on a player?
2 years ago I thought Pryce had a chance at Wigan... now I think he will never make it.
There was a time when wire fans wanted shut of Matt King.... views change.
I was being one-eyed in my view and I looked at the bigger picture and realised he would be a good player for our squad.
Shock horror. The situation has changed since than, therefore so has my view. If we had a fully fit front row... I wouldnt go near him. But we don't.
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| To compare your complete U-turn on a player within 3 weeks, to the situation with Matt King, is just clutching at straws, and, WRONG.
Let's not forget, King still had shown SOME good form in his previous 14 months with us - pre Smith
Cross has "stunk the house out" since his arrival in the country
Yes, Cross must have been a decent player for the triple Grand Final winners to buy him, but his form is going to need a comeback of Lazarus (not Glenn) proportions.
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| Similar to Orwell and his four legs good, two legs bad.
Wigan good, anyone else bad.
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| Quote Odemwingie="Odemwingie"blah blah blah'"
The ONLY thing that changed your opinion on this player is that your club signed him.
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| Quote lefty goldblatt="lefty goldblatt"To compare your complete U-turn on a player within 3 weeks, to the situation with Matt King, is just clutching at straws, and, WRONG.
Let's not forget, King still had shown SOME good form in his previous 14 months with us - pre Smith
Cross has "stunk the house out" since his arrival in the country
Yes, Cross must have been a decent player for the triple Grand Final winners to buy him, but his form is going to need a comeback of Lazarus (not Glenn) proportions.'"
Yes it is a little different but the situation has changed in those weeks. My views have changed with it. I stand by those views now if we didn't have an injury, we simply wouldn't need him.
The thing I was wrong about was his time at Leeds, I was looking at that and not his previous time in the NRL where he was superb.
Like I say on our board though, our coaching staff turned Fielden back around, they can do the same with Cross.
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| [urlhttp://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_5934-cross-and-cahill-pen-widnes-deals.html[/url
Widnes next season in any case... 
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| Quote morleys_deckchair="morleys_deckchair"The ONLY thing that changed your opinion on this player is that your club signed him.'"
Correct, because we NEED him. Prescott and Fielden are both injured and Coley is not fully fit. O'Carroll is not back so he can't fill in and Hock has only just returned. Crosby and Davies are not quite ready yet.
He could have signed for wire or saints, I don't care, his experience in the NRL and at Origin speaks for itself. Clearly I was taking more notice of his time at Leeds.
It's great how you are all talking like you have never changed your view on something though. Do you pick an opinion and stick to it all your life? Or can you see another side to a debate and get torn?
Have I broken some rules by changing my view or something
It's nice to know I am still loved on here though 
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| Quote Odemwingie="Odemwingie"Yes it is a little different but the situation has changed in those weeks. My views have changed with it. I stand by those views now if we didn't have an injury, we simply wouldn't need him.
The thing I was wrong about was his time at Leeds, I was looking at that and not his previous time in the NRL where he was superb.
Like I say on our board though, our coaching staff turned Fielden back around, they can do the same with Cross.'"
You need this?

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| Quote Odemwingie="Odemwingie"I totally accept it. But if you read my other posts instead of picking ones out... you will see that we didn't need a prop at the time.. Prescott and Coley were still fit and I also accept that I was looking at his time in Leeds rather than the NRL.
Or is it just too radical that I have changed my view on a player?
2 years ago I thought Pryce had a chance at Wigan... now I think he will never make it.
There was a time when wire fans wanted shut of Matt King.... views change.
I was being one-eyed in my view and I looked at the bigger picture and realised he would be a good player for our squad.
Shock horror. The situation has changed since than, therefore so has my view. If we had a fully fit front row... I wouldnt go near him. But we don't.'"
He hasn't played since your first comment as far as I'm aware, for you to alter your judgement on him, unlike the Pryce and King case you use to promote your reasoning and the only thing that has happened between the times of your comments are that he's signed for Wigan, your club.
I'm sorry, but a clearer case of myopic and biased views doesn't exist.
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| Quote Odemwingie="Odemwingie"more blah blah blah'"
Were just all finding it really funny that's one min he is rubbish... then all of a sudden you're very excited about the signing.
There's changing your mind..... and there's CHANGING YOUR MIND.
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