Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:00 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

We can only make such comments as we have the reality of the HJS being built. Should we have met with resistance from Warrington BC and other stakeholders, we'd be in a similar circumstances to Wakefield. The same may apply to Cas, but I honestly don't know, as I haven't read about their particular journey to new/improved ground.

Totally agree. And if we were still at Wilderspool, Leigh were still at Hilton Park, Saints at Knowsley Road, etc, I'd also expect us/them to ne kicked out of the league.

The point is, those 2 clubs have managed to survive during a time when the league was trying to progress into the 21st century and actually look like a progressive looking sport, which isn't really achieved when facilities like Belle Vue & Wheldon Road are still in the competition.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:08 pm  

Featherstone going well just now and their ground is better than both Cas and Wakefield, either one of those goes down they may find it hard getting back in.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:48 pm  

easyWire wrote:

I’m not that surprised by Leigh. They’ve signed some flair players and have a buzz about the whole operation that’s lifted them. And the fans are buying into it. Good on them I say, decent ground and a good away day for the fans no doubt.

Nothing against Wakefield and Cas but they’ve had over 20 years to get their houses in order regarding the stadium, even with a less than helpful BC. They could have even pushed for a ground-share of a basic but decent facility, which was originally mooted. Cas have had some decent success on the pitch but the neglect of forward-thinking is now catching up with both clubs. Change or die I guess. Too late for Wakey it seems.

A ground share was on the table for them by the council. Both teams could have sold their facilities and had a brand new multipurpose stadium.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:50 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Totally agree. And if we were still at Wilderspool, Leigh were still at Hilton Park, Saints at Knowsley Road, etc, I'd also expect us/them to ne kicked out of the league.

The point is, those 2 clubs have managed to survive during a time when the league was trying to progress into the 21st century and actually look like a progressive looking sport, which isn't really achieved when facilities like Belle Vue & Wheldon Road are still in the competition.

I don't disagree with you either, in that there has to come a time when the RFL draws a line under the timescale for facilities to be brought up to a certain standard. I was trying to make the point that for the clubs in question, it can be easier said than done, when planning permission and other obstacles are, more or less, insurmountable.

I'm not sure, other than Widnes, that there are any clubs outside of SL, who have a stadium that is up to scratch?

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:01 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

I don't disagree with you either, in that there has to come a time when the RFL draws a line under the timescale for facilities to be brought up to a certain standard. I was trying to make the point that for the clubs in question, it can be easier said than done, when planning permission and other obstacles are, more or less, insurmountable.

I'm not sure, other than Widnes, that there are any clubs outside of SL, who have a stadium that is up to scratch?

York Halifax Fev Sheffield I think off my head.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:29 pm  

Salford playing a blinding first half again.
Can they play for 80 minutes though?

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:35 pm  

When it comes to expectation & then lack of actual achievement & performance, who do we reckon are the most frustrating for their fans?... us or Hull FC?

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:54 pm  

Fourpointtry wrote:

Salford playing a blinding first half again.
Can they play for 80 minutes though?

Be surprised if they gave up a 26 point lead this time.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:56 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

When it comes to expectation & then lack of actual achievement & performance, who do we reckon are the most frustrating for their fans?... us or Hull FC?

Would say it’s equal, both teams have been very frustrating, like us Hull have been bigged up for many a season.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:03 pm  

karetaker wrote:

Would say it’s equal, both teams have been very frustrating, like us Hull have been bigged up for many a season.

I'd argue that we, at least, have tended to get top 3 or 4 finishes more regularly than Hull (obviously not last year) and we then bottle it in the play offs.

Also, is it my imagination, but Hull do seem prone to taking some proper hidings as well - even we have inflicted a couple at their place in recent times?