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Re: Clarke : Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:04 pm  
wind your neck in as you know nothin reading that utter crap :DEPRESSED: :DEPRESSED: :DEPRESSED:
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Re: Clarke : Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:06 pm  
Clarke is a good hooker and his criticism came from the way he was forced top play from acting half by jumping the ball before passing to freeze the markers & make a gap behind the second marker for the forwards to exploit. With some teams that works, with others it doesn't. Clarke's best work comes from organising defence, tackling & when going forward he rolls the pack on well. He's improved vastly in the last 18 months.

Problem is .. Monaghan. Monas is on fire, and as such, do we need a starting hooker, or an impact hooker, or (as a lot of teams are looking at) an 80 minute hooker. Clarke for me isn;t an impact hooker. Smiths decision, and will be based on a mix of that week's opposition, seeing them 7 days a week (rather than 80 on a weekend) and fitness.

I wouldn't think he'd get a run out at 13. Smith doesn;t seem to go for ball playing forwards, rather an additional hitter. Clarkes also trained too lean for 13.

To be honest Clarke may be forced out, and it is likely to be his style of play in our squad rather than any problem with his talent.

Oh one last point, those arguing that Clarkes inclusion in the recent England squads was due to Cunningham not being available. When was the last time Cunningham declared himself available fro England & not Wales ffs.
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Re: Clarke : Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:18 am  
the digger wrote:
wind your neck in as you know nothin reading that utter crap :DEPRESSED: :DEPRESSED: :DEPRESSED:

Apparently none of us do. unless your in the minoroty.
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Re: Clarke : Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:41 am  
I wonder if Clarke got a Sky MOM whether he'd get that awful reaction that Wainwright did a few seasons ago.
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Re: Clarke : Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:49 am  
As the thread starter can I go on record as not hating John Clarke and have/will never boo him or any member of the team. I'm just not a fan of his game and feel that we have a better interchange hooker in Higham and a better interchange utility player in Grix.

I also loved Mike Wainwright and could see how much he offered to the team. His ability to offload was something we needed in the team when he was playing for us as no-one else seemed to want to from what I can remember.
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Re: Clarke : Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:53 pm  
clarke is a good player but he won't get in the the team! monas is best hooker in the league and i see grix as the better utility player. so that leaves him as an impact hooker and that would be shocking as clarke play of the ball is slow the way warrington play is fast now that why at wigan they trying to slow us down as when we play quick we play well
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Re: Clarke : Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:56 pm  
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Clarke is a good hooker and his criticism came from the way he was forced top play from acting half by jumping the ball before passing to freeze the markers & make a gap behind the second marker for the forwards to exploit. With some teams that works, with others it doesn't. Clarke's best work comes from organising defence, tackling & when going forward he rolls the pack on well. He's improved vastly in the last 18 months.

Problem is .. Monaghan. Monas is on fire, and as such, do we need a starting hooker, or an impact hooker, or (as a lot of teams are looking at) an 80 minute hooker. Clarke for me isn;t an impact hooker. Smiths decision, and will be based on a mix of that week's opposition, seeing them 7 days a week (rather than 80 on a weekend) and fitness.

I wouldn't think he'd get a run out at 13. Smith doesn;t seem to go for ball playing forwards, rather an additional hitter. Clarkes also trained too lean for 13.

To be honest Clarke may be forced out, and it is likely to be his style of play in our squad rather than any problem with his talent.

Oh one last point, those arguing that Clarkes inclusion in the recent England squads was due to Cunningham not being available. When was the last time Cunningham declared himself available fro England & not Wales ffs.


That is what I tend to think, does Monas really need to be spelled during the game?
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Re: Clarke : Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:26 pm  
No credit to Warrington from Clarke . All the credit went to Bradford. He was very quiet in the second half again.
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Re: Clarke : Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:39 pm  
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He's better than Higham. This discussion again! Yes!


Not imo. When Higham came on our play the ball was alot quicker and controlled. I like Clarke but wouldnt put Him infront of Higham at this stage, Id wait for a drop in form. Good compotition for the place tho
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Re: Clarke : Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:51 am  
On the basis of yesterdays performance i think we could certainly have done with Clarke in the squad.

Sounds like his influence around the ruck was something we were lacking yesterday.
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